How would Ali beat Vlad?

ali destroys wladdie no problem.

 

Well Ali and we're talking prime would use his faster jab, faster hands, faster feet, greater ring savvy to dominate Wlad.
He'd use lateral movement, the jab and swift combinations and still be able to exit before being countered by the slow moving and robotic Wlad, who is slow on his feet.
I think as it goes on he'd bust up a befuddled Wlad and gain a big UD or late stoppage.
Even if somehow it went into the trenches who would anybody fancy in those circumstances?
All I'm hearing is what Wlad's got to give Ali problems, Ali had plenty to give him problems I think this fight would be a stylistic nightmare for Wlad.
As I've said earlier in the thread a big slow moving robot even a high class one like Wlad is not going to have enough to beat Ali, you need more than that.

 

Why would Wlad be 'so bad' if Ali beat him?
It can be argued that Ali approaching his best never lost a fight.
Post exile it still took Joe Frazier fighting his best ever fight everything he had to beat Ali, and he spent more than a week in the hospital for his efforts.
Even if one is of the opinion that Ali lost all THREE fights to Norton, they were close fights where neither man dominated.

I won't go into his other losses because it's unfair and biased to even name fights where he was riddled with Parkinson's.

No mattet which way one slices it, nobody beats Ali easily. I can't think of one fighter that has an easy night's work witb Ali.
That fighter IS going to be tested, physically mentally and psychologically.

Wlad wins when the opponnent asks the easy questions. Great 'on top' fighter. Not one to look to when the going gets tough though.
Ali will be asking the tough questions. I don't care what anyone says. No way in hell is Wlad simply going to grab and jab Ali like these numbskulls he's been facing.

 

wladdie has no chance.

 

Alis ONLY chance to win is by out jabbing him...both fighters needed the jab to set everything up,they were one dimensional in that aspect.That being said well obviously Wlad has the better jab and would control the fight there after...that's pretty much end thread.


The answer to your question is ,wlad would have to have an off night,and Ali gets his jab going and controls the pace,which would also be far fetched because he excelled in having fighters come to him,in doing that he gives Klitchko the tempo which absolutely would never work...again Wlad has to be real careless or totally out of whack to lose this fight,its a terrible match up for ali that only yhr pure fanatics refuse to acknowledge!The one fight where Ali was the aggressor was with Young and look how bad he struggled!The only way to beat THIS wlad is by pressure and Ali was not good at being the aggressor ,Wlad was not one of those slow walking robots who he out reached or tall slower fighters with no power like him,Wlad also knew the words "CUT the ring off" he wouldn't just follow Ali in a circle like everyone else did....its that simple.

 

This gets better.

 

Well I was trying to throw Ali a bone, I know his fanatics would start crying...Wlad still better with the jab ,with or without it he controls this match up easily!

 

poor ol wladdie, it would be pure comedy seeing him try his one trick on ali, again and again and again...

 

i was kidding around,, what are you, on your period?

 

Get your nuts out of Wlad's sphincter for pity's sake! I just don't get the severe myopia that you clearly have when discussing Wlad. You seem so star struck and obsessed with his vital statistics that you refuse to acknowledge some pretty glaring flaws in his make up as a fighter.
I would acknowledge that he improved markedly under the tutelage of Steward and fought to his obvious strengths , but the truth is he has not faced the very top level competition that would expose him as was the case earlier in his career.
Wlad would undoubtedly give Ali a very difficult fight but ultimately big strong fighters are the sort that Ali feasted upon. Movement, speed and angles would befuddle Klitschko until taken into deep waters later on in the fight and in all likelihood he would be stopped.

 

It doesn't get much better than this, and from a mod no less.

" Ali was one dimentional, and take away his jab and he is wide open and lost. "

Comedy Gold.

Ali faced a guy 6' 6" with an 82" reach, and over a 15 round fight, and won by 11, 15, and 11 points on the cards. What has Klitchko got that Terrell didn't have other than weight. He is slower, less fluid, plodding and robotic. His footwork is abysmal. The list goes on and on.

If Ali couldn't beat both those Klitchko clowns by at least 120 - 108 on ALL 3 cards he has had a sh it night.

 

You are the poster boy for the deluded fan which we are discussing..throw out logic,video evidence,statistics,opponents ali never had to face with the likes of Klitchkos level and add some super human myths that make ali seem his weakness and flaws weren't exposed..you're last sentence sums up how much you actually know about Wlad,why bother commenting if you don't know both fighters?...that sounds about right! :welcome

 

why you posting about yourself?


s'up hwblogger

 

Just a question...suppose Wlad finds himself behind in the fight, how does he respond to that?
How does he change things to his advantage?

Your entire argument is based upon the notion that Wlad takes control from the start and never relinquishes it. See, I have a problem with that because in all likelihood it's not gonna go down that way.
Ali (at worst) is gonna have his moments. At worst.
How does Wlad get the initiative back? I think he struggles badly. Hell, the 'boxing banker' almost had him in a panic there. Williamson had him in difficulties before fortune favoured Wlad.
Your hero has *never* responded well to adversity termite.
There is plenty of evidence to support this.
So I suppose the only way one can realistically envision a Wlad win is to assume that he takes control from the opening bell and never, not even for a few minutes, surrenders supremacy.
To entertain any idea of Wlad struggling-even for a while-opens the door to the idea that disaster is not far behind, because historically that is a nailed on fact.

I think to assume Wlad is in control from opening bell to last is naive and short-sighted, to be kind.