An article that lays out how floyd is juicing and USADA's corruption

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  1. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But where is the evidence that Toradol is causing this "enhancement" other than heresay? It's a drug that is legal (through exemption) by both USADA and VADA (more importantly VADA).

    Also, it wasn't just Toradol. Pacquiao was going to be given a ****tail shot of three different kinds of pain killers. Lidocaine, toradol, and I'm presuming cortisone as the final one.

    And where did you hear Pacquiao has used toradol for his past five fights? That alone doesn't call for alarm, just as Mayweather saying he used the IV for dehydration call for an alarm. What are the details? Was he issued a TUE? How long before the fight? Was he having cramps? Please, provide the article or wherever you got this info so I can look into it.
     
  2. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, yeah it is. He's one of my favorites. I don't want something like this to be found true.
     
  3. The Smoking Man

    The Smoking Man Boxing Addict banned

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    cortisone isn't something you should be taken likely
     
  4. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It isn't just "hearsay" that Toradol is used for enhancement purposes. It's used for such purposes in numerous different sports in the US and there are several athletes testimonies to state this.
     
  5. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If it wasn't just hearsay then it would be irrevocably banned by USADA and VADA- more specially VADA. I spoke to an athletic surgeon regarding Toradol, and he had no problems with it and said it's definitely something Pacquiao would have used for his shoulder.
     
  6. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not at all. Cortisone is what's used for torn cuffs and other serious injuries. If you're taking cortisone then you can guarantee there is a real, legitimate problem. That's some heavy stuff.
     
  7. The Smoking Man

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    or any sort of chronic joint pain, the injections and heavily regulated and only 3 can be given I year I think
     
  8. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You're going to believe what you WANT to believe. It's a FACT of its enhancement effects and there are several testimonies to back that up from top-flight athletes in different sports. If a major league athlete stating it doesn't do it for you then you can continue to live in dreamland.
     
  9. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    when floyd countersued pac for defamation, pac's team subpoenaed floyd's test record.

    floyd dropped his lawsuit (so there wouldn't be any reason why his test records being exposed) and quickly settled with pac's defamation suit with more than what pac's team were expecting.

    this punk (mayweather jr) is definitely hiding something.
     
  10. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I feel bad for Pac. If all this horrible stuff turns out to be true, then he was really put at an unfair disadvantage for the biggest fight of his career.
     
  11. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If it's a FACT than provide me the evidence, dude. That's all I'm asking.

    And hopefully your facts can provide the answers to why USADA and VADA allows fighters to use it in exceptional cases i.e. injury and why it is considered legal.
     
  12. Antigoon

    Antigoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What you talkin' bout, Willis? Sure something was done about it...by the USADA. They granted him a get out of jail free card for it.
     
  13. itsa

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    Are you injured?

    No.

    - manny
     
  14. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not sure from the article who is on the juice or not but it is glaringly apparent that the veracity of the USADA is in question.

    The USADA fees are seemingly dependent on the purses involved and ridiculously inconsistent. That right there spells trouble. And even more troubling is these guys have sanctioning powers.

    In sport like boxing with fractionalized sanctioning bodies from state to state and nation to nation and organization to organization there is no way any fight can be deemed clean. The rules change from fight to fight.
     
  15. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    (The following question)

    Are you taking medication?

    Yes. Cortisone, PCP, Lidocaine, Toradol, etc

    - manny




    Hmm, red flag! There seems to be a contradiction. Either Manny marked no when he should've marked yes or he marked all those medications when he should've marked nothing.