How would Ali beat Vlad?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ribtickler68, Aug 13, 2015.



  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Foxy, I don't want to go to the MODs and have you banned dude. However, you have gone over the line with this "RACISM" stuff not letting it go. You are a self proclaimed "RACISM" hater and have claimed I admitted I was "RACIST" when in fact I said, "we are all racist to a degree". You took offense to that statement, misquoted me about it claiming that I said I was a "RACIST", didn't bother to ask me what I was meaning and went on for many posts misquoting me declaring me a self confessed RACIST while using only your exact definitions of 'RACISM' and refusing to bother accepting mine and what I was truthfully meaning,,,,,

    correct Foxy??

    Don't get yourself banned dude. This is the very first time that I have ever threatened to go to MODs about a member Foxy. I don't like being a snitch, but here is the thing, the rules of ESB state that we are not allowed to be arguing about "RACE" issues in negative, insulting ways in the threads. Correct? I stated we are all racist by degree in a open minded way I was willing to describe in my own words, you took offense to that and called me a racist using only your self proclaimed words. I tried to show a Dictionary.com definition for the word RACISM to have a fair discussion with you of what I was meaning and you PROCLAIMED that only the 1 definition in the Oxford dictionary mattered. Thus at that point we are disagreeing over the meaning of the word RACISM correct? Yet you refuse to accept that correct? While still claiming I admitted I was a racist, thus the one from your Oxford dictionary correct Foxy? So while you then go around claiming I have admitted to being a "RACIST" you are thereby misquoting my meaning you unjust human being.

    Do you see why I find you so distasteful? Its not the racism "you" speak of Foxy, I have no clue what race you are and I have no interest in it. It doesn't matter to me, you on the other hand have inquired more than once about my race, once with many question marks all lined up "????????" you cant let this go you angry old fella.

    Foxy, If I thought that ESB didn't care and encouraged me to continue trying to debate the meanings and thoughts on the word "RACISM" with you I would continue. I don't think that, i think the opposite of that and I bet ESB readers would by majority AGREE with me Foxy. Plus if you were serious about this debate Foxy you wouldn't be wasting our time with it in a boxing thread about Ali and Vlad, now would you? You would want to discuss it fairly in focused length to see where I was coming from so as you could make informed choices based on FACTs about me rather than heresay,,,, You are not interested in that and you are throwing around the word RACISM in a negative way and you keep doing it to me when I many posts ago asked you to stop it while being clear with my reasons why, correct Foxy?

    But as you said many times, you think you are superior to others and you don't give a toss about them, correct Foxy?

    So I give you one more chance Foxy, stop calling me a "racist",, the way you are using it is "insulting" and "offensive" to me personally Foxy. Understand me?

    Otherwise I am going to complain about you to the MODs Foxy. Declaring someone a RACIST is a very powerful thing to proclaim another human being dude. I was willing at one point to discuss to you what I meant when I said, "we are all racist by degree" but when you started calling me a confessed racist to the Oxford dictionary meaning of the word "racist" and kept claiming that's EXACTLY what I was referring to, when that was UNTRUE, you crossed a line Foxy. You cross that line back and we are cool dude. I am ok with most all other insults, its all a joke to me for the most part. However, if you keep this up and I will have no choice but to lodge a complaint against you for braking the rules of ESB forum by continuing negative racist type discussions towards another member:bbb

    Play by the rules Foxy, everyone else does :good
     
  2. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    yes there is you dishonest debater Foxy,,,you insulted spider man comics by insulting dictionary.com claiming dictionary.com to be inferior and you did that by comparing it to spiderman comics :nono

    If I was you I would apologize to this member about insulting spider man comics and then trying to fool him into TRUSTING that it never really happened Foxy :bbb
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Now I will tell you sunshine.

    Firstly stop with your Walter Mitty act, and the pathological lies.

    I have NEVER asked you what race you are because I couldn't give a flying fuk.

    For the last time you originally wrote.

    " Everyone is racist to a certain degree. "

    I told you categorically that is wrong.

    You further wrote.

    " I am racist to as degree " ( that is an admission of being racist, the degree is merely subjective )

    You also wrote.

    " I am the same race as Lennox Lewis "

    AGAIN I DID NOT FUKKING ASK, because I don't fukking care.

    So you go to the mods, and you cry all you like,, again I don't give a fuk, but have the guts not to lie about it.
     
  4. uncletermite

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    Marciano was 185 pounds at fight time?How does that even compare to a 6'6 athletic 240 plus pounder who ,ali himself never remotly had to fight against?: let me guess 205 pound Ernie Terrell.who was thumbed in the eye? :silly

    Maybe ali can hit him with his calf when the ref isn't looking?:nut
     
  5. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    i would never lie Foxy, that would be unfair and dishonest dude :thumbsup

    besides the posts in question speak for themselves, unless you edit them they aren't going anywhere :deal

    Stop bringing up what race i am in your posts dude, its not important. I made one comment many posts ago, why keep reposting about it Foxy? This is three times now? Let it go dude.Why do you think you cant let this point go Foxy? :nono What are you hoping to obtain by reposting to me about it?

    I have never asked you about your race correct? As in zero times correct? Yet you send me questions about my race with many question marks attached ????????????, Am i wrong to assume that you are in someway asking me about my race Foxy? Questioning me in some way? Why the question marks if not :p Yet you try to call this LYING by me? Wow you are a tricky member, i will give you that Foxy :bbb

    Is it a crime to be the same race as Lennox Foxy?

    Are you somehow jealous of me and Lennox's race being the same Foxy??

    Is that what this is all about? You don't like me because of my race dude?

    What is the matter with you and race baiting Foxy???

    You need to pull yourself together dude, trust me :bbb
     
  6. VVMM

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    Ali was far better athlete than the bulked chicken w. klitschko.
    Ali had better skill and chin and the most important better wins.
    w. k. never proved good athletic talent he had big problem with an
    unskilled featherfisted inexperienced Jennings (who can't fight at all)
    because he wasn't a typical fat w. k. opponent like pulev,leapai,thomson,peter,chambers,moli or brock.
     
  7. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    you are damned right about that VVMM and don't ever let me catch you trying to say otherwise :bbb
     
  8. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think this loser hasn't brain he can donate his empty skull only.
     
  9. uncletermite

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    Ali was a featherfist?Ali was not a very skilled fighter he was an athletic one.Imagine Wlad fighting alis opponets abunch of poor footwork,undersized and out of prime fighters in comparison...The few guys ali fought in their prime with actual decent skills he lost to.Norton/Frazier.And both of those guys had no chins with hard punchers and still beat him.....should I even go into his 60's opponents?:roll:

    Ali got chased around the ring by 190 and 200 sub pounders like slow Chuvalo and mildenberger?did you check those guys records?:nut
     
  10. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't think it was possible for your posts to be more clueless but you really continually surpass yourself, it really is quite extraordinary.
    It's actually embarrassing that you're not a troll and that this is your opinion.
     
  11. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    Still waiting on what FOLLEY 202 pounds of fury did better than KLITCHKO?:lol:
     
  12. Warwick Hunt

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    Folley was similar to Wlad in some way. He had an upright European style of fighting. The difference was he was quite relaxed and loose in his movement unlike Wlad who's stiff as a rotting corpse.
    He was right in front of his opponents and could slip punches well despite being in the pocket,unlike Wlad who's terrified of being hit,and is sometimes almost pulling himself away from his opponents as he's throwing because he's terrified of being countered.
    Overall Id say Folley was better schooled and rounded that the robot.
    Of course I also said that sometimes size matters and Wlad would beat Folley, but you ignored that.
    However he wouldn't beat Ali.
     
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That would be 'KlitSchko' young termite.
    Heaven forbid you actually get it right one day.
     
  14. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll say this: in terms of comedy value this thread has delivered.
     
  15. uncletermite

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    sorry but Wlad and Folley have absolutely nothing in common,wlad rarly gets hit because he knows distance and a master at picking off shots mid range...folley has NO footwork,NO power,NO chin,No,head movent or speed....did I miss anything?He absolutely does nothing better than Wlad.


    P.s you also ignored that Ali said Folley may beat him if it had happened years earlier...not TEN years past the guys prime!:roll: