So who was in the wrong here?

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  1. The Smoking Man

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    no floyds team reported themselves that it was over 500 ml used. they hardly just arrived at a random figure
     
  2. wylan911

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    It says an IV is prohibited for anything more than 50ml unless used in medical terms blah blah blah. Still doesn't say it was illegal, lol
     
  3. Leoh

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    From the article: "WADA rules do not allow intravenous infusions or injections of more than 50 milliliters per six hours."

    What else do you expect? They won't write "Floyd is a cheater" in the article, you'll need to come to that conclusion.
     
  4. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here's my thing though it's well known that before the Hoya-Pacquiao fight he had IVs to "rehydrate" (which who knows what it was for in this case) would that mean he was cheating if they had different testing?

    Which is the confusing thing to me, I mean there gonna drag Mayweather whether he was cheating or not and if he was trying to hide PEDs he deserves to be. But in thi s situation who do you answer to.

    I mean using an IV is banned by WADA and WADA answers to the state commission but it's not banned by the commission, so should we be mad or not and if so at what level because in a regular fight this is everyday stuff.
     
  5. The Smoking Man

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    prohibited means illegal in terms of there testing

    eg drink driving is prohibited, its also illegal
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    THE USADA IS TO BLAME HERE.

    You guys are focusing on two boxers and a couple IVs. The article clearly points out that VADA catches boxers cheating, while the USADA collects huge payments and finds NO ONE is using drugs ... and if they do catch someone (like Morales) they keep testing him until he passes.

    The fighters' names change every fight ... but the common denominator is the USADA.

    Wake up.
     
  7. wylan911

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    In that sentence does it say anything about saline mixed with multivitamins? Again, not a banned substance, an improper usage of the means, but not a banned substance. And prohibited does not mean illegal. Had the TUE been submitted 5/1 it would have been prohibited.
     
  8. The Smoking Man

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    anyone with half a brain could see this a long time ago. However since Floyd said usada is great you know all his gorupies will support usada too
     
  9. wylan911

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    Is does not mean illegal. It is improper procedure, had the TUE been filed 5/1 it would be a moot point.
     
  10. Leoh

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    No offence but, you are actually making an argument, right? Not just trolling. I don't understand how anyone can say "prohibited does not mean illegal".
     
  11. wylan911

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    I agree.
     
  12. teemy

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    The amount of the substance is banned.
     
  13. The Smoking Man

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    prohibited - that has been forbidden; banned

    illegal - contrary to or forbidden

    they are the same thing and using 10 times the limit and administered in an illegal manner is prohibited and illegal which ever way you spin it

    eg its not illegal to drive with a certain amount of alcohol in your system, however if your 10 times over the limit it is illegal. Are you going to stand up in court and say ' oh but the substance is only prohibited not illegal, you have no case against me as its not illegal':lol:
     
  14. The Smoking Man

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    no its like building your house and then a year later applying for planning permission, its illegal and prohibited. The council can knock down your house if they want because you broke the rules
     
  15. teemy

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    Nothing was done right in this situation. The amount of substance used, 10 times the allowed amount, is banned. The usada didn't report it when discovered and to top it off, they then issue a retro TUE that they are not auth to give in the first place in any case. Its like a comedy of wtf.