Waiting for real proof

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  1. southpaw123

    southpaw123 Active Member Full Member

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    Based on your logic if one is a steroid cheat so is the other. If everyone would agree on that and apply the same rules to both fighters I'd be more than happy to call both cheats
     
  2. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Poor health? :lol:

    He's a world class athlete, if he had bad testosterone ratioes he wouldn't be one :lol:
     
  3. southpaw123

    southpaw123 Active Member Full Member

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    Being in the mid to late 30s, low t levels in males shouldn't come as a surprise. Now if he had those test results at 25... Well that would be a bit more telling.
     
  4. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao fanboys who hate Mayweather claim he had the vitamin IV because he was masking doping after the weigh in, Mayweather fanboys who hate Pacquiao claim he was scared of needles because he was doping.

    I don't see much difference in them to be honest, only because this is so recent and Floyd won the fight easily, they have something to scream about, and it is suspicious I agree but there's been nothing in Floyd's fights to suggest he has an unfair advantage, same with Pacquiao, he had his suspicious activity even though the knockouts stopped due to him moving up in weight, fighting iron chinned guys.
     
  5. southpaw123

    southpaw123 Active Member Full Member

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    And just to follow up, I don't think he is one of the greatest athletes right now, he's clearly slowed down in just about every attribute except for his ring intellect. He's shown clear signs of this since his fight with ODLH.
     
  6. Imperial1

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    Flow mos on heavy damage control this is priceless :lol:
     
  7. southpaw123

    southpaw123 Active Member Full Member

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    Not a Floyd diehard by any means. You on the other hand are clearly reaching in order to drag his name through the dirt. If you can't spot the difference between not following an IV protocol and having illegal substances in your system during or before the fight... Well simply put you're an idiot who isn't a true fan of boxing.
     
  8. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like how there was so much concrete evidence that Manny was cheating, right? We see how those accusations turned up empty. And those were literally, just rumors made by Floyd. This is a LOT more than just rumors an opponent is conjuring up to prevent a fight from taking place. Floyd did something illegal and was aided by a drug testing agency he has links to. It adds further suspicion about the "story" that saw Floyd test dirty multiple times, only for USADA to assist Floyd in hiding those test results. It's ironic how this whole thing started when Floyd began accusing Pac of being dirty. Crazy.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  10. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The problem is IV push or IV flush is a practice that is commonly used to mask or dilute traces of illegal substances. Administering IV's for rehydration is also common. ....it aids in replenishment of vital nutrients and vitamins that helps the body recover/perform.
     
  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm reaching :lol:

    Did I write the article ?

    Did I take IV injections in my house ?

    Did I make false accusations about another boxer with out any proof ?

    And hey moron no said the substance was illegal the amount and the IV 's were ! I'm more of a boxing fan than you will ever be and always knew that this whole **** with Mayweather would have came to light but you were just to naive to see the truth !Now go kick rocks and try to defend this hypocrite :hi:
     
  12. southpaw123

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    Like when pacs trainer eluded to the fact that manny was being fed substances which were illegal... I could easily lean on that and many other things and say manny used illegal substances, but I don't. I've held judgement on the matter until something comes out saying he did without a reasonable doubt.

    Floyd cheated, no doubt about that, but there a levels. You can't associate rehydrating via an IV with taking banned substances. He applied for the TUE or whatever, but it wasn't approved until after he went forward with it. You guys are acting like the man was caught with a syringe of test in his leg.
     
  13. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So again, we have two reasons, he was dehydrated or was paranoid he was, or he is doping. Pick one... if you're a Pacthard, it'll be doping, if you're a Flumo it'll be dehydrated.

    Nobody knows anything else, so I'll stay in the middle. But, he did break rules technically either way so a no contest would be completely acceptable even if he did win the fight easily.
     
  14. glovesofcrimson

    glovesofcrimson Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Southpaw makes completely impartial points, yet he'll be deemed a fanboy, he isn't... he's being sensible. Roach did suggest Ariza was doping Pacquiao, and if you can't see that as level pegging with this... use your brain.
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes you can. And that's exactly how anti-doping agencies see it, which is why they are banned for use at all times unless you medically need it, like being admitted to the hospital. IV's are used for flushing the system when not used for medical reasons. It's most definitely not legal to do it in your living room, when you are supposed to be "cleaning up the sport of boxing." That said, IV is not even the best way to rehydrate.