Tom Hauser counter-argument to USADA's response

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You wont see him his idol got exposed as a cheat He's hiding
     
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  2. abuffy

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    They were being ambiguous. They say after but don't clarify how long after. This all smells really bad.
     
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  3. thesmokingm

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    After as in after the testing agent walked in on him and noticed the IV marks on his arm. After as in, hit speed dial for T for Tygart, get my white homie on the line.
     
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  4. Doc Everlast

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    So nobody really know what was in those IV bags? They just have to take Floyd and his medical teams word?:deal
     
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  5. IsaL

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    Because there is only two reasons why anyone would get IV therapy a day before a fight.

    1. Extreme Dehydration (Which we all know Floyd doesn' have a problem with since he's a "small Welter" and his walk around weight is 150 lbs.)

    2. Masking agent

    :think

    Add the fact that they did it in a shady manner, at home, with no prior approval, with no prior notice to anyone.

    Not that hard to understand major rules were broken. Why were major rules broken, and why were they don in secret???
     
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  6. IsaL

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    They were vitamins. They can be used to dilute and or mask PEDs.
     
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  7. abuffy

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    No one knew about the IV until July. NSAC and Top Rank themselves didn't know until May 21st. What are you talking bout? We knew about Pac's injury immediately after the fight. NSAC and USADA knew about it before.
     
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  8. thesmokingm

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    No technically no one knows, all we know is just what the medical team, or TMT told the tester.
     
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  9. Doc Everlast

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    But the bags were empty when USADA got there?:hi:
     
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  10. abuffy

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    That's another thing I have a problem with. Why did USADA take their word for it? At MAYWEATHER'S house, and they didn't know about it before... and they take Floyd's team's word that it was saline and vitamins? Are you kidding me? They should've immediately tested everything, including Floyd, right then and there.
     
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  11. Starched Him

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    Lol the best ever

    Go TBE
     
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  12. BASHar Asad

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    How must the other MT fighters who tested positive feel? Being throw out as fodder to project legitimacy to the USADA and Floyd himself.
     
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  13. dannyc1990

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    how would an IV post weigh in block tests taken weeks before though?
     
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  14. lobk

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    How about the sample they collected after his IV drip and the sample after the fight. Since both would have been after the IV drip. This also brings up the question of whether or not this was an isolated incident throughout the testing window.
     
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  15. thesmokingm

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    Does testing stop after the weigh ins or something?

    They were both tested after weigh in at different times. Floyd managed to get in two big ass IV bags before the testers came. Then theres the post fight test too. :roll:
     
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