Any 175 Pounder You Would Make Favourite Over Charles?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Which if any lightheavy which you pick over Ezzard? 15rds?
     
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  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In my eyes only Gene Tunney of the Carpentier and Tommy Gibbons fights
    might have beaten Ezzard Charles as a light heavyweight. Tunney was
    so difficult to beat as a LH that even the immortal Harry Greb felt that Tunney
    was getting too big to handle after their 5th bout...Ezzard Charles in my opinion was a better LH than Ali was as a heavyweight, hands down.
    But Ezzard was low key as a personality, while Ali was a great self promoter.
    I would say that my man Billy Conn is not to be overlooked, as what Billy
    did against the great 30 pound heavier Joe Louis for 13 rounds was truly
    amazing.
    So I have in historical order:
    Gene Tunney
    Ezzard Charles
    Billy Conn
    Archie Moore
    Bob Foster
    S Kovalev ?
    P.S. In the 1920s there was Jack Delaney who was so highly thought of as a great LH, but was a drinker of spirits shall we say. He was good enough to
    flatten Tiger Flowers Twice in one bout.
    And Paul Berlenbach ,who was a powerful wrestler who turned to boxing and
    became a LH champion and a powerful hitter...
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Good post Burt:good
    I pick Tunney too! The other possibility for me is Conn.
     
  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Believe it or not Spinks with his size advantage, speed and power could be his toughest stylistic match up at 175 .. Foster is always out there but seemed to **** out against heavyweights so I'm hesitant to say him even thought this is at 175 .. Tunney had the chin, strength, speed and conditioning to be very tough as well ..
     
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  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Spinks is stylistically tough for any 175 pounder imo, his herky jerky style , height , serious power and decent boxing ability make him a real hard nut to crack! I love Bob Foster, but not against Charles. John Henry Lewis,Harold Johnson anyone?
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Maske!

    Or maybe Harry Greb whose style confused all sorts of operators.
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Charles and Tunney are my top 2
     
  9. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Foster did have pulverising power and Charles could be hurt/KO'd, so I'd give him a decent shot here.

    Greb could do it. He did routinely weigh between 160 and 175. Tough to make anyone a favourite over Charles though.
     
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  11. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Greb seems like an obvious candidate, in my opinion. Charles couldn't beat Ken Overlin, a poor man's version of Harry.
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Conn and that's about it.
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    And they called Maske a Rich Man's Version of Greb!
     
  14. albinored

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    ...charles was too inexperienced for overlin when they fought.
    overlin was a highly experienced very tricky southpaw....a real cutie. when the match was proposed overlin said, "no guy with 22 fights is going to beat me. now 22 fights practically makes a guy a veteran, but back then was different. they did fight a draw in their rematch and i haven't heard much about it being a hometown decision.

    plus, we're talking about light heavies here, and ezzard and overlin were middleweights when they fought.

    as to light heavies, while i think ezz was the greatest light heavy in history, those mentioned here...tunney, conn and a couple of others could beat ezzard, but i wouldn't make them the favorite, which is the question posed for this thread.
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd take Michael Spinks over Ezzard Charles at light heavyweight. No doubt.