Should Mayweather-Pacquiao be changed to a No Contest?

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  1. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I called you what we call Floyd fans. But read the article. Until then, don't comment on this topic.
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't be serious. :patsch
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Rummy, as you probably remember, Vlad was called a sore loser by the American boxing media, he was not given a level playing field to prove his case and decided to just move on, which he did. I hope, after Vlad retires, he will go back and find out the truth. As you also know, Vlad did not have and has never had diabetes, yet the doctors were concerned about Vlad going into a diabetic coma, etc. I was in touch with someone that very night, so I remember this very well. When I did some work at the older Klitschko.com site, I wrote about this, Vitali did read it and Vitali was not really ready to give up as he always said "outside influence", so did Steward, but Vlad wanted to just move on......................I have to say that Vlad does not have a bad chin, his loss to Puritty (or is it Purrity?) Vlad ran out of gas, he was beating the **** out of Puritty, then ran out of gas, he and Vitali were promoting the fight, as such, Vlad did not train as he should have and had lost weight, due to diarrhea, but he wanted to continue, it was his corner that stopped the fight in the 11th round, if I recall correctly.....................Puritty has one of the best chins in boxing and was a very hard puncher, Vitali was the first to stop him...................then when I found out that Vlad was going to fight Corrie Sanders, I predicted right here on ESB that Vlad could get stopped, he did, not a KO, but a TKO, as Vlad kept getting up. Vlad made no excuses for that loss, but I remember that he did not train properly for the fight, Sanders was going to fight Valouev in South Africa, Vlad had not even seen Sanders fight. Vlad came into the ring cold and from what I knew he did not spar much, and esp. not against a southpaw. Sanders was in the best shape of his career....................I even wrote Klaus Peter Kohl, remember, this was right after Vlad had a great win against McCline, TKO, he was let down. Both Vitali and Vlad wanted to fight the best, so yes, Vlad did deserve to lose that fight. When Steward took over his training, he had Vlad to watch the fights on film, video, etc., then along came the Brewster fight. Compare the number of punches Vlad threw against Brewster with the number of punches he threw against Mercer..........................Vlad did not get tired against Mercer in which he threw many more punches............he was the first to stop Mercer............Vitali nor Vlad has ever fought in Vegas since.....................The Judd letter tells a lot..................after that loss, I never gave up on Vlad, I should still have a picture of Boente holding a long letter I sent by hand to Vlad at Ukrainian church....................well.................Vlad bounced back!!!!!!! I never received a cent from either Klitschko, just have some pictures, signed and gloves, etc., hanging in my gym...................we even had an Klitschko fan club meeting at ESB chat room.....................don't think there is chat room now, but you probably remember it, it was very good chat room, esp., compared to Danilo's chat room in what I believe was the very first Klitschko Fan Site..............Ivo would remember..................whatever, Vitali and Vlad are really good people, I respect them, hope Vlad beats Fury (think he will) and I hope Vitali is safe in Kiev, I miss seeing him fight, a true warrior...........last..........I have always spelled Vlad with a V instead the German W, since he was an amateur.....................in case you wondered.................and I want to say that Roman Kerniski did a wonderful job on the older site........................
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Jesus Christ could you please break that into a paragraph or three Farmy:good
     
  5. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absolutely, and if you found proof of something that Mayweather did by that article, then maybe You need to read it.
     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look...I will comment on whatever I choose, whenever I choose. I'm gonna call you what we call men who act like women when they hear a little gossip and can't wait to go blow up the story with no real evidence to support what they believe...a b!tch.

    Hauser is not exposing anything. He is bringing attention to himself, negative attention to Mayweather (but, still...attention), and, in an idiot's mind, casting doubt on the outcome of the fight. Shut up and go get your toes done or something.
     
  7. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's not that it has much to do about nothing. Pac was allowed to use Toradol by USADA. The NSAC denied that use if I'm not mistaken.

    In terms of the method, where it happened, and what was in the IV...there was no banned substance. You didn't give me enough reason for me to believe that this fight should've been overturned.

    I mean you're talking about a misstep in protocol where Floyd informed USADA of what he was doing. Now if your suspicion that USADA didn't inform the NSAC commission of this, then ok. If you're suspicious that USADA is in cohorts with Floyd then ok. But to overturn a fight? I need proof that Floyd used something, not missteps in protocol.

    Overturn a fight?

    USADA is not guilty of anything. They did their part. VADA allows this IV treatment too. They have their own list of banned substances that can't be introduced intraveniously as well. I question why this was brought up two days before the fight when this was known and reported way back and didn't gain any steam. Some posters were posting this, and nobody cared. Now they care???:lol:
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You can't even speak you degenerate.:lol:
     
  9. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exerpts from the article:

    "The mixes themselves are not prohibited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), which sets the standards that USADA purports to follow."

    "Victor Conte was the founder and president of BALCO and at the vortex of several well-publicized PED scandals. He spent four months in prison after pleading guilty to illegal steroid distribution and tax fraud in 2005."

    “In and of itself,” Conte explains, “an abnormally low T-E ratio is not proof of doping. The ratio can vary for the same athlete from test to test. But an abnormally low T-E ratio is a red flag. And if you’re serious about the testing, the next thing you do [after a low T-E ratio test result] is administer a CIR test on the same sample.”


    "Earlier this year, in response to a request for documents, the Nevada State Athletic Commission produced two lab reports listing the testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio on tests that it (not USADA) had overseen on Floyd Mayweather. In one instance, blood and urine samples were taken from Mayweather on Aug. 18, 2011 (prior to his Sept. 17 fight against Victor Ortiz). In the other instance, blood and urine samples were taken from Mayweather on April 3, 2013 (prior to his May 4 fight against Robert Guerrero).
    Mayweather’s testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the April 3, 2013, sample was 0.80. His testosterone-to-epitestosterone ratio for the Aug. 18, 2011, sample was 0.69."

    "In other words, USADA was not bound by the drug testing protocols that one might have expected it to follow in conjunction with Mayweather-Pacquiao. And this divergence was significant vis-a-vis its rulings with regard to the IV that was administered to Mayweather on May 1."

    Thought I'd highlight a few key points that corraborated What I said.
     
  10. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    At least order a rematch in neutral territory, with neutral referee, judges, boxing commission, etc.....................
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i see you brought your A game, youve almost convinced me that floyd is clean.
     
  12. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. mayweather cheated.
     
  13. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    This is a non story. Floyd kicked Pacquiao's **** legitimately.
     
  14. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Funny but every media outlet thinks so and hugging and running while being juiced is hardly an ass kicking :hi:
     
  15. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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