Don't fence it. Do you reckon Mayweather took PEDs in his career?

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  1. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    What nation is this guy from?

    [url]http://boxrec.com/boxer/5316[/url]

    This was his music:

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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    I honestly don't believe so.
     
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    As a Roy Jones fan I would keep quiet about glass chins if I was you.
     
  4. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The evidence is irrefutably there if you want to see it. Masking agents, T/E ratio, USADA etc. it's an elephant in the room situation. Kellerman detailed in nicely on his recent ESPN radio cast.

    [url]http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losangeles/play?id=13627009[/url]
     
  5. sparta

    sparta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A very good point, look at his fighting style, low work rate, no power, slowing from fight to fight, hello !
     
  6. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    :good There was nothing 'Olympic style' about his drug testing.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    without a doubt. hes just that type of a guy. if you cant add up all the evidence and see that hes a cheat, then youre just a sucker.
     
  8. bw51

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    Please see my original reply to this very same comment.

    His workrate was not low but average. But his average punch output can be a reflection of fighting style and defensive mental temperament.

    His excellent conditioning instead showed up in the abilitity to maintain catlike reflexes and footwork for a full 12 rounds which can sometimes be more exhausting than throwing punches as i previously described.

    Punching sometimes can be done efficiently with good technique, ie allowing torque from the body and waste to generate the power. However, head movement and footwork requires total body mechanics which tend do can take up more energy than punching and tends to become harder as you get tired. This is why most guys get hit more towards the end of latter part of the fight. In the saul alavarez fight, saul tired bc he had to move his legs and whole body to catch floyd as opposed to just barbarically turning the hips to land bombs. Supreme conditioning also helps fighters with decision making as your brain, hand/eye coordination is still sharp. Anyone who has boxed, knows what i am talking about.

    So looking for devastating power or high punch volume is not the only indicator. If floyd was on EPO, for example, he won't tire. If he was on a testerone cycling program, then perhaps he wasnt using too much of it....

    we don't really know but you need to look at the overall body of evidence.
     
  9. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Yep, I'm sure a guy who likes to beat up women doesn't have anything against taking PEDs
     
  10. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    And we have absolutely no evidence, my work here is done.

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  11. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's like killing someone which was caught on cctv then deleting the tape and saying it wasn't me.
     
  12. The13thRound

    The13thRound Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the evidence is doing a drip that can mask a positive drug test you haven't even begun any work
     
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    As you've previously stated, polls on here is the only evidence one requires. :nod
     
  14. sparta

    sparta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i read your reply, i also boxed in the amateurs , i am 37 yo and can still spar 10 rounds at good pace, to this day. It is all about energy efficiency, floyd is a master at this, he also wins fights with his mental approach more so than his physical. Different if he was 48 and doing this, 38 aint that old, refer to 39 year old anthony mundine vs sergie rabchenko fight as an example, mundine wouldnt touch coffee let alone peds.
     
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    How good is your mandible? :think