tyson vs tillis

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought it was 6-4 Tyson.

    He slowed down considerably in the second half of the fight. His punch output dwindled. Tillis wasn't landing much of significance but was busier down the stretch.

    Tyson obviously improved markedly later on. This was a good learning fight and such fights are needed in a fighter's development.

    The sparring and exhibition with Tillis in 1987 doesn't mean much because Tillis never again looked as good as he did against Tyson. He struggled mightily with Avery Rawls later in 1986 and lost to a comebacking Joe Bugner. Tyson, on the other hand, had improved by 1987.
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Finally we agree, even you're not as stupid as Termite who said Tyson won easily..
     
  3. VVMM

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    To me 10-0 for Tyson. He chased Tillis and ruled the ring. Tillis did nothing effective.Otherwise Tyson wasn't focused he didn't try knock Tillis out who was
    easy to hit (especially by bodypunches).
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Termite was the biggest imbecile on this forum but you swiftly made me realise he's not quite there yet.... :rofl:rofl
     
  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was at the fight. I also was a guy with a lot of $4 on Tyson and giving the 10-1 odds.

    I was sweating bullets---as were almost all the fans in attendance waiting for the decision. We all were hoping for the good old axiom--follow the money--to work and have Mike get the nod.

    The feeling in the crowd was pretty much a draw at best for Tyson. Most thought he lost. Sometimes when you go to fights it presents a much different view than on television. This was one of them. Tyson was not landing clean on the guy at all. It looked like there were openings, but he just didn't take advantage or change things up to create things. The guy in there landing clean was Tillis.

    The other big thing I took out of the fight then & so did everyone else, was that Tillis solved Tyson rather easily.
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice to see someone with an ounce of brain power on this thread....
     
  7. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    The thing is being at the fight and stunned by Tyson not k.oing someone in round one was the shock,not exactly the fight that wasn't close at all,we know this because while you saw it live,video evidence is crystal clear...if you still think it was close you had one to many I think,and certainly that night you saw it.


    Tillis solved Tyson?:lol:



    Well sorry but Tyson clowned him even more so after that fight a year later in an exhibition fight,much like he treated the first one.
     
  8. rski

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    I thought it was a fairly close fight to be honest, with Tyson edging it on aggression. Mike in no way won easy and certainly didn't "clown" Tillis. Tillis wasn't a world away from solving Tyson that night either, he was moving well on the outside and tying Mike up at the right time.

    Tillis showed if a fighter could think and not get flustered by Tyson it is possible to frustrate him. Tillis also looked fairly confident throughout, not like a losing fighter. It was a decent test for a raw Tyson, he gets a bit of flack for not getting the KO but people seem to forget Tillis was very "on" that night and an 19 year old Tyson still won, but pretty narrowly I thought.
     
  9. uncletermite

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    Well heres the thing that no one has brought up yet which I kind of forgot,is that it wasn't a point system it was a round system,counting the knockdown in Tysons favor in a point system puts to rest the idea this was remotely close....it wasn't and no one can point out the rounds it was not counting the last 3 which clearly Tyson let slideand even arguably still won 8 rounds while tillis won one round and a draw for another which seems to be accurate though I still give Tillis 2 rounds just cause he lost anyway.
     
  10. fists of fury

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    Tillis did something nobody else had done up until that point, and that is go to Tyson's body. Tyson in his biography claimed that he was sore the next day from all those body shots.
     
  11. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tillis saw everything Tyson was doing in there. He anticipated Tyson's punch selection. Read him like a book. The other thing he did was counter the guy. It was Tyson getting hit clean in there, not the other guy. Mike was very lucky that he was getting hit by a guy with minimal power and snap.

    It was a 99% Tyson crowd at a fight essentially in his backyard. He was taking on a guy with miserable recent form. That's why the big odds on the fight.

    But if you have been to fights live, it is much easier to sense things and what's going on. If you aren't seated in the back row. And especially compared to the horrible job Wallau/Dierdorf did calling the fight for ABC. Sure wasn't too long and that announcing team was gone and never heard from again.
     
  12. UFC2015

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    Didn't anticipate the knock down though. This tyson fight where he survived is his biggest claim to fame just like Bone crusher, Tucker.

    Whereas Lenni survives against Mercer, Tua and its called a masterful performance. Talk about double standards.
     
  13. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since when was Lewis's performance against Mercer masterful? Ray gave Lewis all he could handle, we aren't like you Tyson nuthuggers who can't give other fighters the credit.
     
  14. rski

    rski Well-Known Member Full Member

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    these remarks are too far in the Tyson worship direction I'm afraid, you cant debate a valid point. I am a prime Tyson fan but acknowledge he had flaws, and Tillis did show you some that night. Tyson improved later but it showed he could be troubled with movement and intelligent clinching. As said, if Tillis had real power Mike could have been in trouble that night because he was landing with uppercuts and hooks. As it was Tillis didnt have all the requirements needed to beat a prime Tyson, a rare combination, but he had a few.

    As for Lewis, who says Mercer was a masterful performance? Its arguments like that which make it pointless responding to be honest.
     
  15. Azzer85

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    It was a green prospect vs a very experienced journeyman ffs.
    He gave Tyson some trouble, Tyson still won.