Durans speed = very underrated.

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  1. peenus-bacon

    peenus-bacon Guest

    As us hard core fans know Duran's countering speed was second to none. Its not so much the speed of his hands(which were fast enough) Its the speed in which he moves his body into crazy punching positions. In terms of speed of body positioning from defence to offence and back again then I think Durans the GOAT at this type of movement in the ring.

    In the Leonard 1 fight Ray had the edge in hand speed. His combo speed was crazy in that fight. He just couldnt land clean enough to hurt Roberto. The speed which Duran showed in that fight was speed of body, speed of positioning in multiple ways. Ray just couldn't integrate his body into multiple positions like Roberto could. Durans punch selection is out of this world considering how fast he had to utilate his body to take up those punching positions.
     
  2. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [YT]-ZtTnBo61fM[/YT]

    Check out his footwork from 8:50 on
     
  3. AREA 53

    AREA 53 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Roberto had great Anticipation and Space Perception he could read opponents very well, It all helped
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What Duran had was such a good understanding of the fundamentals of fighting that he would set up the punch he wanted to land often two or three punches prior to that.

    If you go onto Youtube there is a technical breakdown of Duran's fighting skills by a couple of boxing coaches. In on instance, Duran is on the fighters right side in such a way that the opponent can't throw his right hand. Then he fires a right hand to the left of the opponent which the opponent blocks, he knows he's going to block it and without even looking he also knows that there a place for a body shot to land on the opponents ride side, which he throws without even visually seeing that it was unprotected, he just knew by how the opponent positioned his hands that that punch had to be there, and just to be sure, he threw the prior punch to freeze the arm where it was, and make the opponent glad that it was there, at least he was glad for that split second. His infighting skills were a thing of beauty.

    Truthfully unless you've watched him, some get the idea that he was a crude brawler who was rather slow. But watch 3-4 of his fights and it's obvious that he's anything but crude or slow and his defense is much to good to label him a brawler.
     
  5. 70sFan

    70sFan Member Full Member

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    Duran was just a natural fighter. His style was so unconventional with all the feints, footwork, body position changes it was a pleasure to watch.

    At 135 he was untouchable (GOAT?).

    If I remember correctly he jumped right up to welterweight, a 12 lb jump and still did well. A true testament to his skills was him still competing at 154 and 160 effectively (except Hearns fight).

    I would have loved to see a fight between Floyd Mayweather and Duran at 135.
     
  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    The tape don't lie. He was incredibly slow...

    [YT]watch?v=25BRIKx1bkc[/YT]
     
  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I think anyone who has studied Duran knows that up through the first Leonard fight Duran was lightning in his own right with both hands and feet .. after that he slowed down a bit but still was a master at moving his body .. an exceptional fighter ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuGZVkYuHM4
     
  8. BCS8

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    His handspeed wasn't incredible but his reactions were. He managed to roll instinctively with punches that should by all rights have caught him cold.
     
  9. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the tape don't lie??? He was 47 yrs old! You could still see his skills, and toughness even at that age. He was amazing
     
  10. nikrj

    nikrj Active Member Full Member

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    Have you ever heard about sarcasm? :D
     
  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was fast at 135 and 147. Above that weight, he relied on ring savy.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floydie would have surely lost that "0".
     
  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have to be trolling. Duran at 40 something. Of course he was slow
     
  14. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, Bernard Hopkins is the prototypical late 40's boxer. How could I forget? :roll:
     
  15. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    No shi*t.

    Duran was a very quick fighter and tended to lay more on his punches which caused him to set harder. But these idiots have their minds made up without knowing a damm thing.