Top Ten P4P regardless of resume/accomplishments

1. Ward
2. Khan
3. Brook
4. GGG
5. Wlad
6. Pac
7. Kov
8. Lom
9. Rig
10. Cotto

 

Gonzalez
GGG
Wlad
Kovalev
Rigo
Ward
Lara
Usyk
Crawford
Brook

 

That's actually what the original definition of P4P was. If all were the the same height/weight who would win?
Nowadays it has become more a resume regardless of weightclass thing.

 

1 loma
2 ward
3 rigo
4 ggg
5 pac
6 wlad
7 gonzalez
8 usyk
9 brook
10 kovalev

 

Interesting question. Except that is impossible to judge fighting ability not "taking accomplishments into consideration".

 

This. Then it becomes "who do I want to win based on who I like more."

 

Based on h2h ability within their division it's so hard ranking.

Wlad has to be up there because no one can touch him.
Cruiser is a poor division.
Light heavy has kovalev and Stevenson
SMW has Ward and DeGale
MW has Golovkin, Cotto and Canelo
LMW has noone, Lara isn't as good as we thought.
WW has Bradley, Garcia, Pacman, Brook
LWW has Crawford
LW has no one at all.
SFW has Garcia and Walters
FW has Lomachenko and Russell
SBW has Rigo
BW has Yamazaki (totally forgot his name but you all know who I mean).
Small divisions have Gonzalez and Inoue.

Those are the guys I consider to be the most skilled today. Ranking those is tough. I'm gonna go for the following:

Crawford
Ward
Gonzalez
Garcia
Canelo
Inoue
Wlad
Kovalev
Stevenson
Golovkin as a top ten.

 

where is FMJ? u forgotten now.

Is that current, 5, 10, 15 or 20 yrs projection from now?

 

Stupid thread.

I think Lineras looks good when he fights. Let's have him as p4p number 1..

I also like the way Usyk and Felix Veredejo fight despite their competition. There goes my p4p top 3

 

A top 10 ranking of a division isn't just a list of "who would win." It is a ranking based on accomplishment.

Often times the unaccomplished prospect ranked 8-10 enters a step up fight against a top man in the division yet is favored by the vast majority. That doesn't mean they were ever ranked above them.

So it seems logical that a P4P list would be the same.

I prefer it that way because it at least challenges someone to remain consistent and also assesses what has actually occurred as opposed to opinion of talent. What you describe is what the term "H2H" is for, or more specifically "P4P H2H," yes?

Either way, a listing in this manner is also highly flawed as it doesn't factor in styles. Perhaps I feel Rigondeaux beats Kovalev but loses to Ward while Ward beats Rigo but loses to Kovalev. How would one possibly "rank" that on a P4P list using your and this threads' criteria?

 

Good list.

1. Devon Alexander
2. Zou Shiming
3. Hekkie Buddler
4. Gabriel Campillo
5. Kell Brook
6. Daiki Kameda

My top 6. It's pretty solid. And impossible to argue inconsistencies or disagree with, using this threads' criteria.

 

1. Lomachenko
2. Rigondeaux
3. Ward
4. Gonzalez
5. Klitschko
6. Usyk
7. Kovalev
8. Pacquiao
9. Golovkin
8. Beterbiev

In terms of current. Pac is a HOF but not ATG level fighter atm.

 

Then I'm not talking about you. [emoji14]atsch

 

And for many on this forum that is how it will go.

Credit to you for setting your emotions aside, I guess?