Mayweather or Pacquiao: Who do you rank higher as ATG?

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  1. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar, Marquez, Morales, Barrera, Margarito, Mosley, Cotto etc were all rated #1 in their class at some point in their career, correct?

    The first guy he fought when jumping up in weight was a top 5 maybe top 3 tier fighter within the last two years, correct?

    Obviously the best available and who was willing to have a go. Like, Mayweather was best in his class and he wouldn't fight Pac, but Cotto, Mosley, Clotted were immediately after Floyd and he did fight them.
     
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  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Oscar hadn't fought at 147 in years prior to facing Pac. So he wasn't #1.

    Margarito definitely wasn't #1 at 154, and wasn't even a top 10 guy there - ever. (Fight was also at a catch weight and should NEVER have been for a vacant title).

    Mosley had 2 subpar performances prior to facing Pac, getting dominated by Floyd and looking terrible against Mora.

    The Cotto fight was inexplicably at a catchweight.

    Morales was clearly on the downside, losing 4 of his last 5 fights before retirement with his only victory coming against Pac.

    Barrera 1 was an incredible victory, and MAB was genuinely #1 at that weight class.

    And JMM was always one of the best in each division he competed in, but Pac never once beat him decisively (even though I have their series at 2-1-1 favoring Marquez, and the official results are 2-1-1 favoring Pac).

    :smoke
     
    Rumsfeld, Sep 22, 2015
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  3. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Any boxing fan with more than half a brain knows how to answer this question.

    Floyd, by a good margin, very comfortable.
     
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  4. maguswarlock

    maguswarlock Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd is the bigger fraud, pac is half the fraud mayweather is but still kinda fraudish.
     
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  5. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    floyd
     
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  6. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    The answer is obvious.

    Floyd Money Mayweather :cool:
     
    Stallion, Sep 22, 2015
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  7. jesse

    jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Facts
     
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  8. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you really think Diaz and Margarito were the best fighters at 135 and 154?
     
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  9. maguswarlock

    maguswarlock Active Member Full Member

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    I think both floyd and pac should be below corrie sanders
     
    maguswarlock, Sep 22, 2015
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  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pure ether.
     
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  11. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    why bc they ar both ped users?

    well considering that everyone else is using, it is a level playing field
     
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  12. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    You know what's funny?

    If this was a poll where we could see the name of the pollers, Pac would be winning handily. It goes to show that people know deep down that Floyd is greater than Pac and by a good margin.

    Since this is an anonymous poll, even the closeted Floyd lovers are voting. I bet that some Pac****s are even voting Floyd. People know what's up. I can't believe there are those who actually believe Pac is greater than Floyd. Ffs. Makes absolutely no sense at all from a boxing standpoint.
     
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  13. bw51

    bw51 Active Member Full Member

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    i have been arguing in all the floyd IV threads that floyd a PED user but can say with conviction that he ranks higer than pac

    there may have been a periood when pac wud have beat floyd, but losing to a fighter does not necessarily mean he is greater

    oscar loss to shane but oscar still greater
    tyson loss to buster but tyson is greater
    duran lost to leonard but i still consider duran an equal

    floyds overall contribution to boxing, notoriety, and overall body of work puts him above pac
     
    bw51, Sep 22, 2015
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  14. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Floyd, a couple slots up.
     
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  15. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd would be Ranked Higher Undefeated beat em all

    Pac has beaten alot of people Floyd beat. But Floyd has beat Pac as-well as beating the man that Knocked him out.

    Pac can make up for this by beating Garcia Brook Thurman Then you have to go with Pac even if Pac is the lesser fighter. I dont think Pac can go threw these 3 Fighters though.
     
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