Vitali Klitschko vs Joe Frazier

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  1. rex11y

    rex11y Active Member Full Member

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    At last someone with common sense! Frazier from late 60's to FOTC was a genuine ATG and would have been too much for the likes of Klitschko.
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Firstly Vitali beat nobody of note.

    Secondly stop comparing him to Foreman, they had nothing in common and Vitalis power is severely overrated.

    Thirdly men with similar measurements and/or styles were able to fight competitively so why cant a greater fighter in Frazier?

    Frazier: 5'11, 73 inch reach.
    Chisora: 6'1, 74 inch reach.
    Byrd: 6'1, 74 inch reach.

    Oh and Byrds weight on fight night against Vitali was 210, while Vitalis was 245.

    If you can count, that's a 35 pound weight advantage in Vitalis favour and what happened? He was nowhere close to stopping featherfisted Byrd.

    Weight and size advantage my ass.

    Vitali was a bully who feasted on mediocre fighters and when someone stood up to him he always pulled out the excuses, Chisora a 20 fight novice was meant to get blown out in a couple of rounds, he pushed Vitalis **** in and in some of the rounds, it looked like Vitali wanted to quit. After the fight there were the usual rumours that Vitali was injured, funny because not one person noticed this while watching the fight. Not once did Vitali say he'd injured himself mid fight. Sounds like BS to me.

    Frazier is too much dog for a front runner like Vitali and has the stylistic advantage over him, Chisora showed that, admittedly Vitali was old, but he was coming off one of the best wins of his career over Adamek.

    Vitalis claim to fame is taking that uppercut from Lewis? Well Frazier went down, got up and charged straight back at Foreman after receiving much worse punishment.

    And ill say it again, vitali beat nobody of note.

    Oh and going by the title of the thread Frazier (71) vs Klitscko (03), upon closer inspection we find that during this period, Frazier beat Ali while Klitscko took 8 rounds to stop Danny Williams.

    Let that sink in.
     
  3. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Vitali had nothing like the clubbing power of Foreman, or the speed of even a fast fading Ali. Frazier could just as easily win this fight as lose it.
     
  4. uncletermite

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    Byrd is nothing like Frazier,as a matter of fact its highly unlikrly he even beats Byrd,with his fast hands and defense southpaw style,afterall fraizer was not the power puncher you guys make him out to be and he was far to easy to hit to even make this a fair fight with just about any power puncher,let alone vitali.



    Ali was not a power puncher and was not as hard to hit as vitali was,we know this because we have video evidence.you trying to convince me Frazier who almost got tko's by bonevana inside 3 rounds and struggled againat a 6'4 out of shape Mathis soley on his size..well you are delusional,the hard truth is Sam peter presented the same type of fight Frazier would have,except Fraziers chin would crack inside 3 rounds if Vitali hit him,Mathis nearly dropped him,he had Frazier grab the ropes to keep him up,the argument of Frazier always gets up,when Vitali never goes down is as weak as an argument as one can have in trying to make a claim for someone .
     
  5. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Alis not a hard puncher?

    He stopped Foreman, Lyle, Liston and Frazier.

    Now show me who Vitali stopped, that was actually world class.

    (This will be good).
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Any fighter pre-1980 beats any fighter post 1980. So what if they were smaller? They played a better ball game back then. Even the hot dogs tasted better before the 80's.. The farther back you go the better things were in general. Hell I'm about ready to throw out my apple computer for an old type writer which in my opinion does better head to head..
     
  7. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    Foreman was tired and gassed,you continuew to nit pick arguments to favor you.Power punchers that land knock there opponents out early,not after mid rounds unless they are very durable and obviously foreman that night wasn't,Ali has a very weak k.o percentage with the bigger Hw's as a total,again anyone can look this up,no serious boxing follower would ever say ali hits hard,Ali himself said he was a weak puncher its not even a debate.Show me who Tyson stopped who was a world beater?see the nit picking does not work.

    P.s the thread is about Frazier not Ali.
     
  8. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    so they created the cruiserweight division for fun?:nut
     
  9. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok that's fine. Now show me who Vitali stopped that was actually decent.
     
  10. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    Well if I had to list them its a losing battle as you are now playing the bait and switch game with a undersized 205 pounder known to get dropped by FAR less opposition vs a 6'7 250 Olympic in shape power puncher with ring IQ far greater than anyone hes ever fought...i'll leave it at that!


    Ironically this is what everyone does to you to counter attack your Tyson claims,though its not comparing a giant vs a easy target 5'11 fighter that's so obvious of a mismatch its not hard to counter this one.
     
  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    No.. by the time the cruiserweight division came into fruition the period I mentioned was ending. Chuck Wepner would beat Leonnox Lewis just because he was from the 70's. Don't you know that everything in the 70's was better?
     
  12. uncletermite

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    Yea d like to see who agrees with Wepner beating Lewis,thats as bad "ALMOST" as the nonsensical Gallento k.oing Klitchko..with that statement you just shot down to almost Wass and herol levels.:lol:
     
  13. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    You do realize he's sarcastic, right?
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    a failed insult from a kliturd means one is doing something right.
     
  15. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    That's the thing I have no agenda ,you do.I simply compare realistic scenerios not shoot them down because I either lack the brain power or simply have a biased or grudge toward fighters.:roll: