Mayweather or Pacquiao: Who do you rank higher as ATG?

The fact that #48 needed 4 fights with JMM tells you everything you need to know about him. He could never figure out JMM and couldn't make adjustments. He's a flawed and limited fighter period. PBF shut JMM out and JMM never once wanted another rematch despite the fact that he would be getting a career high payday and a shot at redemption add to that JMM always said PBF would beat #48 and then get back to me.

 

Floyd cheated..750ml IV tarnishes his legacy.. forever..
and ducking below the waistline is his (poor) attempt at trying to be like sweat pea lol.

 

don't forget marquez never fought at around the weight he fought there, he was very sluggish compared to when he fought at pacquiao..(he came to heavy = disadvantaged)

..and Floyd came overweight (to his advantage)

 

You do know Manny failed to make weight before once too, right?

Also he didn't cheat against Manny. Get over it kid.

 

Doesn't, matter no version of JMM beats PBF he's a horrible styles match up for him.:deal He knew this that's why he never wanted a rematch.

 

because he also keeps saying that you need to ko Floyd to win IN Vegas.. because Floyd stacks all the advantages (legally and ILLEGALLY)

 

Didn't you see PBF throwing 100 punches a round and his one shot KO power wow! He really looked like he was juiced to the gills in that fight with #48.:rofl

 

Right because he out weighed his opponent by how much ? Keep reaching kid :hi:

 

if im a kid you're a delusional baby

Floyd cheated, and NO letter of exemption wipes away that..

As if an exemption makes a prohibited substance any less physically/chemically potent..

haha

 

What about PBF in that fight did he look like he was on something? He didn't have a high work rate? He threw less than 450 punches he didn't have much power in that fight. He didn't beat #48 with work rate and power he beat #48 with his ring IQ and the ability to control distance and using his reach.:deal This whole IV thing is just anther long line of excuses when #48 loses JMM was juiced EM he wore the wrong socks the guy and his fans have an excuse after every loss.

 

Hmm lets see Manny fights JMM 4 times yet Floyd fights Maidana twice

Oh the hypocrisy I mean fighting a plodder like Maidana two,times tells me all I need to know about Fraud ..Ducked the little midget in 09 because he wouldn't agree to his dirty testing. PBF also cheated to beat him so that also,tells me more about Floyd than Manny ! I mean he needed to take PED's to beat a guy who is naturally smaller than him

Yeah that's so amazing ..That's how he beat # 48 with IV's and TUE's

What a clinic

 

Maybe Floyd should have fought in slow motion. Lmao.

He didn't stand still so I could hit him. Manny Pacquiao

Freaking hilarious. Folks Manny just showed up to collect a check. Simple as that. Socks, shoulder, gloves, Jinkee slapped him and wanted Koncz fired and Marquez was on steroids. All excuses. Hilarious.

 

The key difference is that PBF beat Maidana clearly in both fights.:deal But for a PBF fight it was closer than normal in the first one so people wanted a rematch. #48 never beat JMM clearly and got put into a coma in the last fight and people screamed PEDS then. :rofl You fools have excuses lined up on speed dial, even before the PBF-#48 fight his fans were making excuses and never wanted the fight in the first place. You guys have no shame and nothing in that fight suggested that PBF was on anything he was cleared and you fools are mad so you're reaching. The truth is before this came out you made excuses and didn't give any credit and now with this you're doing the same thing who do you think you're fooling?

 

Floyd's name belongs in the lists with Ben Johnson, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong and all the other filthy cheaters who needed PEDs to be competitive. This kind of threads shouldn't be allowed anymore, they do nothing but insult great boxers by putting their names next to cheaters.

 

How ever you want to spin it you can he chooses a plodder in maidana not once but twice !! But hey why would anyone be surprised this is king cherry picker ..I mean his fans voted for him to fight Khan he ignores all that and fights this era's mayorga

That tells me all I need to know about your hero !

And these aren't excuses these are facts your boy was caught with an illegal IV and was granted a TUEb19 days later ..You do know why TUE's are granted for right ? Your boy would have came up dirty ! But luckily for him usada was in his back pocket lThese are Not accusations these are the FACTS !TUE 's are for prohibited substances ,I ask you why does Floyd need to take an illegal IV and need a TUE for a guy he's suppsidly so much better than ? :think

And the only people that cleared him are the same people who covered up for him but let me guess that makes hi innocent right

And when that fight was announced I said the same thing I'll tell you now it was 5 yrs to late !! Maybe you can't accept that fact but it was what it was buts what's worse now is that he had to cheat to beat him ..Yeah that's one hell of a legend right there ..I mean resulting to cheat against a smaller guy TBE my ass more of TUE !