Prime Muhammad Ali vs. Prime Larry Holmes.

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  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    yeah I could see that, but never by a large margin,,,

    what a interesting battle of jabs, speed, timing and angles this would be :bbb
     
  2. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    "Im a better version of myself now after the lay off,im bigger,stronger and im timing my punching better now"..M.Ali in 71 after the Quarry fight. :smooch

    "Ali of the 60's would have been more easily hit by Frazier b/c his defense was not as good" G. Foreman :smooch
     
  3. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Ali weighed 215 for the Frazier fight, and 212 for the Williams fight.

    He was not bigger or stronger, just chubbier and slower.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    40 year old?? Are you a crackhead??
     
  5. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    That's about it imo.:good
     
  6. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    " I'm fitter, and stronger than I've ever been my whole life "

    Ali going into the Holmes fight, when everyone in his camp including himself knew he had the onset of Parkinsons.

    Next silly quote from you please.:nut
     
  7. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    He get's worse. Which is an achievement in itself!
     
  8. Anh

    Anh Undisputed chicken dancer Full Member

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    The doctor who examined him said it was "at least 40" , with no birth records.

    Liston fought Ali (Clay) with one arm too.
     
  9. Anh

    Anh Undisputed chicken dancer Full Member

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    Anyhoo, back to the original question. Both fighters in their prime had a similar style, well Holmes tended to stay in the middle of the ring and he can fight on the back foot.

    Would unfortunately be a boring fight...

    It would be very close split decision, if they had 3 fights, I'd give Ali 1, Holmes 1, and a draw.
     
  10. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought he was estimated to be around 130 when he fought Ali??
     
  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Ali outboxes Holmes clearly. Pure speed.



    Seventies Ali ?

    The best version of that decade (1972-74) just about nicks it if Muhammad's in optimum condition.
     
  12. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali by 11-4 or 12-3. A little too much for even the likes of Larry Holmes.
     
  13. JohnThomas1

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    Agreed all around.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Holmes UD. Ali had issues with good jabbers at many stages of his career. In addition Holmes was more versatile and the better in-fighter by a good margin,
     
  15. BCS8

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    This is what makes me think that guys like Holmes and Wlad would be a handful for even prime Ali. Big enough to have a size advantage and technical enough to have the means to counter his speed, coupled with a great jab.