Do you agree with dmatos assessment of Louis vs Ali?

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You describe Louis’s opponents as “slow and unskilled”, and then mention Conn and Walcott.

    There is no heavyweight in the top ten today, who ever dreamed of being as fast or skilled, as Conn or Walcott.
     
  2. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    Louis's jab was not as strong as nortons or stiff.
     
  3. uncletermite

    uncletermite Boxing Addict banned

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    You bring fantasy land to a new level!:patsch
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Louis's jab might just have been harder than Norton's rigth cross!
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    OK then.

    Name a heavyweight in the current top 10, who you think is technically better than Conn or Walcott.

    Then tell us why!
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    They clearly were not among the "vast majority" to whom I was referring... Are you being sincere?
     
  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Fine, Tyson. You should run a poll on this. Neither of us is going to convince the other.

    The men that he stopped within two rounds: Berbick, Spinks, Carl Williams, Tony Tubbs, Henry Tillman, Alex Stewart, Bruce Seldon (and a bunch of others probably not worth mentioning) are more impressive than those Louis dispatched within 2.
     
  8. janitor

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    So is that your list?
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Throw in Marvis, Savarese, and the Black Rhino too then. (why not?)
     
  10. janitor

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    Max Schmeling (top 20 all time heavyweight)
    John Henry Lewis (great light heavyweight champion, and curently ranked heavyweight)
    Buddy Baer (still holds a record for most first round knockouts, ranked at the time)
    Tami Maurellio (current #1 contender)
    King Levinsky (ranked contender over several years)
    Charlie Retzlaff (ranked contender)
    Gus Dorazio (ranked contender)
    Lee Ramage (best technician of the era)

    Now how many people on your list were ranked at the time?
     
  11. boxfan22

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    What a joke of a person you are. How can you rank a home made champion above the greatest boxer of all time. You really need to watch the interview of Ali and howard cosell and LISTEN to what Ali says! Ignoramus.
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

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    Those rankings mean little to me. Bottom line to me is that Tyson's early-ko victims were better boxers and more formidable opponents. I'd take them head to head over Joe's by a large margin.
     
  13. Seamus

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    This.
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes, I am a joke of a human being.

    Now that we have that out of the way, who exactly do you think is the greatest boxer of all time?
     
  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Be careful here, he doesnt just watch fighters he studies them!