Do you agree with dmatos assessment of Louis vs Ali?

uncletermite · Sep 27, 2015

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I am saying that he is a much superior technician.

I assumed that this was never in dispute.

Perhaps you would be better off following figure skating!
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"foreman was tailor made for Joe Louis" Janitor

"Johnson destroys Vitali" Janitor

Yea im the one who should take up figure skating? You're the dopiest poster on here. Im assuming you are called janitor b/c you have to clean up after you comment its such a mess?
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janitor · Sep 27, 2015

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"foreman was tailor made for Joe Louis" Janitor

"Johnson destroys Vitali" Janitor
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I think I said the former but not the latter.

Yea im the one who should take up figure skating? You're the dopiest poster on here. Im assuming you are called janitor b/c you have to clean up after you comment its such a mess?
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If you consider Deontay Wilder to be a better technician than Jersey Joe Walcott, then I have to question your grasp of boxing technique, unless I am really missing something about wilder.
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uncletermite · Sep 27, 2015

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I think I said the former but not the latter.

If you consider Deontay Wilder to be a better technician than Jersey Joe Walcott, then I have to question your grasp of boxing technique, unless I am really missing something about wilder.
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wilders jab is great,and so is his crisp combo inside punching,it is not disputable it is on video even in the fight last night when he started to get more aggressive.There is NO punch that Wilder cannot throw better than either fighter you mentioned,Wilders biggest flaw is hes off balance a lot .

You have Sam Langford over Vitali and you are questioning my credibility? :nut
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JAB5239 · Sep 27, 2015

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I used to spar with Yuri Vaulin when I was younger....and I do have boxing background...take a seat! :hammertime
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Nope, you're lying. Again.

uncletermite · Sep 27, 2015

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Nope, you're lying. Again.
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Yea I just picked Vaulin off the top of my head ,you caught me !:roll:

janitor · Sep 27, 2015

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wilders jab is great,and so is his crisp combo inside punching,it is not disputable it is on video even in the fight last night when he started to get more aggressive.There is NO punch that Wilder cannot throw better than either fighter you mentioned,Wilders biggest flaw is hes off balance a lot .
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You obviously have a fairly limited grasp, of what constitutes a technical boxer.

I doubt that many knowledgeable people would even consider Wilder as falling into that category.

On this issue you are not only wrong, but fundamentally wrong, on some very basic points of boxing technique.

You have Sam Langford over Vitali and you are questioning my credibility? :nut
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I am aware that I am in the minority on this, but nobody can ultimately prove me wrong.

On the issue of Wilder being a brilliant technician, we have the footage and we can test your assertions, and safely conclude that you are way off.

Would anybody else like to step forward, and say that they consider Wilder to be a brilliant technician?
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Wass1985 · Sep 27, 2015

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You obviously have a fairly limited grasp, of what constitutes a technical boxer.

I doubt that many knowledgeable people would even consider Wilder as falling into that category.

On this issue you are not only wrong, but fundamentally wrong, on some very basic points of boxing technique.

I am aware that I am in the minority on this, but nobody can ultimately prove me wrong.

On the issue of Wilder being a brilliant technician, we have the footage and we can test your assertions, and safely conclude that you are way off.

Would anybody else like to step forward, and say that they consider Wilder to be a brilliant technician?
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If swinging like a girl pretending to be a windmill is classed as being a technician then yes Wilder is a master.... :rofl:rofl
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uncletermite · Sep 27, 2015

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If swinging like a girl pretending to be a windmill is classed as being a technician then yes Wilder is a master.... :rofl:rofl
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Those swings hurt believe me,ooops another poster whos never been hit before,my bad!
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uncletermite · Sep 27, 2015

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uncletermite said: ↑

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You obviously have a fairly limited grasp, of what constitutes a technical boxer.

I doubt that many knowledgeable people would even consider Wilder as falling into that category.

On this issue you are not only wrong, but fundamentally wrong, on some very basic points of boxing technique.

I am aware that I am in the minority on this, but nobody can ultimately prove me wrong.

On the issue of Wilder being a brilliant technician, we have the footage and we can test your assertions, and safely conclude that you are way off.

Would anybody else like to step forward, and say that they consider Wilder to be a brilliant technician?
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Ultimatley you are the most clueless poster of the forum,not because you are the dumbest but the most naïve one I have come across but lets be real,no one who really would or has been in the ring before would never take such responses seriously.Unfortunalty for you I have a PHd in common sense as well. :deal

P.s Brilliant was never used!atsch
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janitor · Sep 27, 2015

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Ultimatley you are the most clueless poster of the forum,not because you are the dumbest but the most naïve one I have come across but lets be real,no one who really would or has been in the ring before would never take such responses seriously.Unfortunalty for you I have a PHd in common sense as well. :deal

P.s Brilliant was never used!atsch
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I think that most people, who had been in the ring, would see some excellence on Walcott or Conn, and a whole heap of weakness in Wilder.

Of course if I am wrong, please give me a detailed breakdown of what I am missing.
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Wass1985 · Sep 27, 2015

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Those swings hurt believe me,ooops another poster whos never been hit before,my bad!
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I'm that good I don't get hit little boy... :hi:
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janitor · Sep 27, 2015

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Those swings hurt believe me,ooops another poster whos never been hit before,my bad!
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I dont want to be mean to you here, but you dont seem to understand boxing technique.

All I am hearing from you are a few vague sound bites, and you dont go into any detail.
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uncletermite · Sep 27, 2015

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I'm that good I don't get hit little boy... :hi:
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No you are just an imbecile 'WUSS" who obviously has never even hit a heavy bag.
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uncletermite · Sep 27, 2015

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I dont want to be mean to you here, but you dont seem to understand boxing technique.

All I am hearing from you are a few vague sound bites, and you dont go into any detail.
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His jab,and inside combos are fast strong and compact,hes more awkward than the two you mentioned,he is also more aggressive and at 6'7 ,maintain balance is going to be much harder,thats why not many guys over 6'5 have become pro boxers or champs,though that is changing with more athletics put into the training camps. what technique or MAGIC technique is Walcott doing better is a better question?
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janitor · Sep 27, 2015

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His jab,and inside combos are fast strong and compact,hes more awkward than the two you mentioned,he is also more aggressive and at 6'7 ,maintain balance is going to be much harder,thats why not many guys over 6'5 have become pro boxers or champs,though that is changing with more athletics put into the training camps. what technique or MAGIC technique is Walcott doing better is a better question?
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He actually knows how to box?

OK, you tell me what you think would define a good boxing technician, and how Wilder meets that criteria.

Then I will tell you why he isnt even on the learning curve.
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