Do you agree with dmatos assessment of Louis vs Ali?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No instead he got knocked out by a lesser puncher in Bowe.....
     
  2. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think you neglected to add:oops: when you put Auntie Bug in her place yet again, for the two thousandth time.
     
  3. uncletermite

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    Bowe hit hard and he took more shots from bowe than Frazier did from foreman who barely even laid a glove on frazier and needed 2 rounds to do it...:patsch

    You also didn't mention 260 pound foreman couldn't k.o holyfield but little 220 foreman battered Frazier,whys that? :smooch
     
  4. janitor

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    Because 260 pound Foreman was a fat old man perhaps?
     
  5. uncletermite

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    Power is the last thing to go,are you telling me 220 foreman hits harder than 250 plus Foreman? :nut
     
  6. janitor

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    His power would have been at least equal, and crucially he would have been faster and sharper.

    Nobody becomes a more effective puncher with age.
     
  7. uncletermite

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    Adding size with already power there in foremans case certainly does.I love how you guys make out foreman to be this old disabled person by the way..... :lol:
     
  8. janitor

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    Power is primarily a neuromuscular thing. It is highly unlikely that Foreman became a harder puncher, by carrying a spare tyre round his waste.

    Either way it is irrelevant, because he would have been a far less effective puncher, as an older man with slower reflexes. Effective punching is more contingent on delivery than power, and fighters loose these attributes as they age.

    No fighter ever has been, or ever will be, a more effective puncher in his late 40s, than his late 20s.
     
  9. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have yet to see uncletermite mount a credible argument on any topic. Poor guy gets schooled left and right but isnt smart enough to realise he is the forums new kickball.
     
  10. uncletermite

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    Really I guess im just a mirage then? :-(


    Everything you said was false,body weight regardless of muscle or fat does little to effect a power punch.

    P.s Foreman did strongman lifting and power lifting in his 40's if you are telling me his arms are not solid you need to take up ice skating not me.:deal
     
  11. uncletermite

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    Coming from the guy who states Byrd pushed Vitali back and 205 Frazier would do the same,even though hes never actually fought a slick power puncher before and couldn't even last with slow Foreman who stoofd right there for him to hit and lasted 2 rounds. If im a kickball what does that make you, maybe a watermelon getting crushed by a sledge hammer,perhaps?:lol:
     
  12. janitor

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    No disrespect, but you still have a lot to learn, including some pretty basic stuff.
     
  13. uncletermite

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    Nope..ive boxed and been in the ring,im guessing you never have!:deal
     
  14. janitor

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    No disrespect, but given the grossly uninformed comments that you keep coming out with, I have to question what sort of practical boxing experience you can have gained.

    There are a lot of people on this forum who box, and while they hold differing views on various topics, they generally have a good understanding of the mechanics of boxing.

    You don’t seem to have.
     
  15. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I heard you used to have problems with broken hands, not because you were a hard hitter, but because the referee was always standing on them.