****yzing Mike Tyson's title defenses

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  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with a lot of what you say. But honestly I don't think I gave a single round to Tucker against Lewis. He arguably won three rounds against Tyson but of course he was six years younger. Nevertheless the Lewis vs Tucker fight was more lopsided. Tony was just there to survive and get a paycheck. Tubbs was a better boxer than his resume reflects. Fast hands, good ring generalship and stamina to go the distance. Against Tyson though he was grossly overweight and hadn't beaten a meaningful opponent since 1985. He took over a year off after losing to Witherspoon then returned in 1987 to beat three obscure journyeman - one of whom floored him. He did better against Bowe despite being older but he was also well trained and facing a greener foe.
     
  2. Azzer85

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    Overall, i feel Tysons opposition is pretty solid.

    Alot of these guys he was blowing away (except Tucker) went on to give decent competitive fights to the other greats of that era.

    I feel Smith was his weakest win (despite the fact that Smith was probably coming off the best win out of the bunch), he didnt go on to do much, except maybe nearly stop Ruddock.
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Tubbs was a lazy bum. Richie Giachetti walked out on him the week of the fight because he didn't want to be associated with such a lazy, undisciplined fighter. Tubbs had barely trained for Tyson.
    Tubbs was apparently offered $50,000 bonus if he could weigh in under 235. He came in at 238.
    If that's true, that's the laziest sh!t I've ever heard. What a poor effort.
     
  4. rski

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    I agree that Holyfield would probably have been Tyson's main concern, he wanted Mike badly. Sometimes I watch Holyfield V Cooper and wonder how Evander would have got out of the 3rd round if Tyson landed that right hand (that knocked Holy down), Cooper was nowhere near the finisher Tyson was and it's easy to believe Mike could have whacked him out at that point after hurting him: -

    round 3 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10RDiJWmxcE

    Then I'll see those vicious uppercuts that Holyfield landed on Cooper and his sheer relentless then wonder how Mike would cope with that down the stretch, the way Evander didn't take no for an answer and finished Cooper was scary, it's also easy to see that will getting the better of Tyson in a similar vein to their actual fight. Mike never needed to war like that so you wonder how the shock of it would effect him, his success hurt him in that way.

    Finish - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0fiJxafkjA

    Ok Cooper is no Tyson but I think that fight tells you a little about this match up. I believe if Mike didn't badly hurt Holyfield early he would be in trouble mid way to late in the fight. It would have been one of the best wars in boxing history either way.

    Anyway I think Tyson's record generally shows he was a great fighter, part of his legacy is really how easily he beat those guys compared to other great fighters, its often over looked as they are seen as mediocre fighters but banging those guys out was impressive.
     
  5. red cobra

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    Solid as hell victories:good...the Thomas and Biggs fights were stellar...real beat down clinics that established Mike as the Boss Hogg of the heavyweights...what was there not to love?
     
  6. Azzer85

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    Even his post Douglas resume was decent. It could have been better but still good.

    Stewart, Bruno, Ruddock x2, Golota, Botha, Savarese, Seldon and Etienne.
     
  7. Azzer85

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    He beat Rid**** Bowes ass though.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    But he was a big, juicy, ripe watermelon to Mike Tyson's sledgehammer (a Gallagher ****ogy).
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I'm not sure what training he did for that one, but if I remember rightly he came in under 235, but alas no bonus. :lol:
     
  10. Wass1985

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    Everybody slams Wlad but he beats all of Tyson's challengers during his reign and that's including Douglas.
     
  11. Azzer85

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    Those few pounds would not have helped his fat ass against Tyson, but did against Bowe (another fatass).

    On a serious note, I actually feel Tubbs did well in the first round vs Tyson.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    I agree. People need to face facts, Wlad is a beast. Unbeaten now for 11 years and all people can say is "garbage opposition".
     
  13. Azzer85

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    Anyone who believes a HW James Toney could beat Mike Tyson needs to watch this fight.
     
  14. Azzer85

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    Coulda woulda shoulda...instead of worrying about Tysons opposition maybe Klitscko needs to stop ****ting those brix when Tyson Fury comes around.
     
  15. Wass1985

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    Yeah because James Toney fought like Tony Tubbs.