Who ranks higher on the ATG list in Toney and Holyfield?

by his logic he is including it a legit win...sorry it wasn't.


And everyone is either laughing or disagreeing with you on your own thread. Please make more I could use the laughs.

 

He got prety mixed results against the elite heavyweights he actually fought, so why should we assume that he beats all of Toney's opponents?

 

Well who could Toneys opponents beat that Foreman couldn't? Who did Foreman lose to that Toney could beat? you do realize there is aHW class for a reason right? Are you really going to sell me the b.s argument that Toneys top competiton would make it as aHw's on a top level? atsch

 

In his second career Foreman lost to Evander Holyfield, Tommy Morrison and Shannon Briggs. He should have lost to Axel Shultz and Alex Stewart.

I don’t think that all of these guys are better than all the heavyweights toney fought, or that they would necessarily beat Toney himself.

Now if we are talking about a pound for pound sense, then Toney’s opponents have it by a country mile.

 

WTF...??? you realize you are switching arguments now right? We are talking who fought the better fighters,not which HW's Toney fought would fare against the HW's Foreman lost to...that's dumb.And no ,The Foreman guys would wipe out the guys who Toney fought anyway. Can you name me ONE guy toney beat who was better than Bowe when Holy beat him? Nope..What about Dwight Quawi ?Would toney even beat him when toney fought RJJ...I highly doubt it..How is Toney higher ranked over Holyfield??????Take the imbecile that started the thread who just compared 1991 Holy with 2003 Holy with you .end thread. atsch

 

We are talking pound for pound here, so Toney’s opponents don’t need to beat Holyfield’s head to head, for him to be better.

Who did Holyfield beat that was better in a pound for pound sense than Mike McCallum for example?

That aside, I do not rate an ancient Foreman as one of Holyfield’s more impressive wins.

 

We are not talking pound for pound here you are in the wrong thread if that is your switching arguments now,and no ,again holyfield dominated at Cruiserweight,Toney lost to RJJ and one more after that ,he has losses aswell,he is not p4p better.Ranking higher in all time great list is just that ranking higher where did this p4p jump in? atsch


Foreman in 1991 was better than anyone Toney had EVER beat ,its really not this hard. atsch

 

You sound like a complete idiot. That's an amazing extrapolation. I think Holyfield is slightly greater than Toney.

 

Go back and read the original post.

 

The original post is "WHO RANKS HIGHER AS AN ATG" nut:nut

 

I don't really care,how about that.Im not the idiot who gave Toney in 2003 for a win over Holyfield to big him up now did I? :deal