Vitali Klitschko vs Joe Frazier

You gave all excellent points however you are wasting your time,this one has been laid to rest and dead with this guy,he simply wont agree on anything that is logical,he makes his own rules up and supes anyone up to his liking,if you hadn't noticed he does NOT like Klitckos therefor its a waste of an honest debate,move on! :nod

 

Here is the problem I see with your breakdown. First, while Vits style is more like Ali's than Foreman's he is not nearly as fast. Nor is he as powerful a puncher as George and he has totally different mechanics. Back straight up will most certainly create many opportunities to hammer the body as he slips under the jab and closes the gap.

Vits wears guys down that stay in front of him absorbing punishment. Frazier will certainly take some lumps, but Klit is a power puncher in the pure sense of the word.

As far as Vits tiring....we saw it in bothe the Byrd and Lewis fights by the halfway mark. Both fights he was winning but wasnt in total control. He actually had to exert himself and it showed. Frazier is non stop, I just cant see Vits not becoming tired. Even half blind in Manila Joe never stopped...and that isnt the prime version we're talking about.

I do appreciate you breaking down your points though and putting forth a thought out post. Very refreshing compared to termites "Vitaly is a 6'7" giant, Frazier wouldnt see the third round" drivel.

 

Actually I rate both Klits quite high h2h all time. You can find it in my thread history if you're interested. Im sure you wont be though since it directly contradicts another one of you MANY lies. What I do dislike are little oompa loompa's like yourself who overrate a fighter based on size and weak comp, yet will devalue a more proven all time great like Frazier. Now move along son the grown ups are talking. You've had your chance and got spanked. Unless of course you would like to revisit how a great like Dempsey could beat bigger men, but also lost to and ducked smaller men again? Lmao!

 

Dempsey's last 12 opponents:
Tunney 6'
Sharkey6'
Tunney6'
Firpo 6.2.5"
Gibbons 6.05"
Carpentier 5'11"
Brennan 6'1"
Miske6'.05"
Willard 6.6.25"
Smith 6'2"
Morris 6'4"
Miske 6.05"
Average height 6'06".

You are owned once again.
Dempsey fought many guys appreciably bigger than himself:
Fulton
Smith
Firpo
Pelkey
Anderson
Norton
Morris
McCarthy
Willard etc.

Dempsey gave up 5.25" in height and 58lbs to Willard
NB Downey was 5'9" and Dempsey was 19 when he first fought him.

ps Don't you get tired of being exposed& humiliated?:think

 

You still listed guys who are smaller and have listed only a small portion of his oppnetns,like I said he enjoyed size advantage most of the time.Just not as much as a 6'7 250 pound over a past time 5'11 205 one though,aye?

 

Nobody would have really troubled Ali if he had power only an imbecile like you cant figure that out.


By the way Liston was 205/210 in his prime...something Ali never saw as was the case with Williams! :roll:

 

And again you miss the point. Smaller guys have always been capable of beating bigger guys. In Dempsey's case it worked both ways. This is the reason no one takes you seriously with your lame argument that Vits beats Frazier because he is bigger. Only a fool ignores history.

 

Even a bigger fool ignores current reality!you were severly schooled by N_N and myself its about done here! :dead

 

I showed conclusively that his size was not a factor in his career.You're just too dumb to grasp that and too dishonest to admit you made another stupid statement.

 

Can somebody please ask Lady Bug why he's ignoring my posts on this thread???

 

you must of done something right :hat

 

Yep I think I have, I think I've silenced the muppet. :good

 

I hope you aren't convincing yourself that it was in fact you that pointed out Pele Reid KO'd Kleetchko in the Euro kick boxing finals 1992.

But if you have managed to shut the Bug up, the credit is all yours. Be my guest.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Lady Bug said it never happened at all, a mythical tale according to him.