Which Fighters In Your Opinion Are Overrated or Underrated????

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Be it Slightly, Moderately, Profoundly
    Any Level of Overrating or Underrating Is Applicable.




    Discuss
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  2. aaalbert

    aaalbert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Danny Garcia is overrated tbh.
    I always see people comparing him to like Morales and how he's give mayweather problems. Honestly, in his last few fights, he's gotten gift decisions and shouldn't be considered up there too much.
     
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    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I think Shawn Porter is underrated because of the Diaz match, styles make fights Julio had the wrong style for him, as far as the Brook match goes, Brook is just the better fighter. That doesn't mean Porter isn't any good, Brook is just far better than people want to give him credit for.
     
  4. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Big weight cutters usually perform better than they normally would in their natural division and they are often overrated until they move up. Walters at 126, DSG at 140, Porter at 147, Canelo at 154, Abraham and Chavez Jr at 160 are some examples. This doesn't necessarily mean they are not good, but still they are often overrated. I believe this is a major issue that needs to be addressed in boxing. I think IBF has a default rehydration clause of 10lbs, that rule should be improved for all divisions and applied to all pro bouts.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm sure I'll get some s*** for this but I think Povetkin, Kudryashov and Beterbiev are all slightly overrated. I love watching them, but they are far from perfect and thus far besides his power I'm not convinced Beterbiev has what it takes to beat a skilled fighter who can take his power, good luck on finding one though.:lol: In my opinion Povetkin is a little too inconsistent and he's struggles a few too many times for me to fully believe in him, Kudryashov is an unproven commodity, who looks easy to outbox, but like I said before good luck on finding somewhat who can take his power. :bolt
     
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    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    From what I can gather most people didn't even watch the Diaz fights. When it came to people having to call the Brook v Porter fight, people seemed to cite the struggle Brook had in ONE fight against Jones, but not the struggle Porter had in TWO fights against Diaz. And let's be honest, Porter teamed with Victor Conte after those so we know what really lead to his improvements. So from what I can see Porter is rated about right.

    However I think some of Brook's other opposition- most recently Dan and Gavin- are criminally underrated because Brook destroyed them. They would beat the likes of Berto, Ortiz, Lopez, Broner, though
     
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    Errol Spence, the guy hasn't fought anyone but people say he's pound for pound or ahead of Thurman and Porter
     
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    Hes beaten everybody you wanted to beat him, htf is he overated??
     
  9. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    Any power puncher is overrated. Any technician is underrated.
     
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    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    What about his amateur pedigree? Surely he's vastly proven
     
  11. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    IMO Martin Murray was very underrated MW. He didn´t have that concussive power like Pavlik and GGG, or the personality but his fundamentals, size and reach were very good. Nor Martinez or Sturm could handle his overall ability.

    I hope he beats Abraham so he gets the belt and recognition he deserves.
     
  12. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Many trends are that high KO punchers and brawlers usually get overrated. Also, fighters who are a$$holes outside the ring with bad personalities are more likely to be underrated because they don't have near as many fans rooting for them and thus those viewing their career will do so in the worst light possible. Fighters who are nice people and liked outside the ring are more likely to be overrated because they have much more fans rooting for them and viewing their career feats in the best possible light... It all comes down to my response of specific claims, but "in general," I will say:

    Anselmo Moreno is Mr. Unappreciated of the Era.

    I think Kazuto Ioka is very underrated for each of opponents faced, on-paper accomplishments, and excitement of bouts.

    Arthur Abraham seemed overrated in his MW prime but since the Super Six seems to have been underrated a bit.

    Lomachenko is undoubtedly ridiculously overrated right now. You'd never guess he was 4-1 with one great victory in his career by the way people discuss him.

    Povetkin was underrated up until his post-Wladimir devastating KO streak. I'd say he's rated properly now but it took recent fights for his feats from years prior to be acknowledged so it doesn't feel right.

    Most people tend to hate on Jessie Vargas too much. I feel he's proven to be a good and relevant fighter. Some are still convinced he's a "fraud" or "bum" but that just isn't the case. He's not great. But he's good.

    Wilder gets almost as much hate as anyone. And he's still overrated.

    Lucas Matthysse was rated just fine but has become massively underrated overnight since losing to Postol. The negative stuff I've read about Matthysse this last week is shocking. Doesn't make much sense but don't ask me.

    Contrarily, Provodnikov was overrated the moment he was thought of as anything other than a very good and very fun ESPN-level fighter.

    Robert Helenius, Manuel Charr, and Odlanier Solis are the most overrated heavyweights of the whole last decade+. The hype and hope for their careers was crazy and the only thing notable they did was fall so far short of those wild expectations. Helenius and Solis did have a couple decent showings but nothing worth a shred of the discussion they generated among fans and ranking/H2H fancying among fans.

    Diablo Wlodarczyk is a beast and has never gotten his dues from the boxing community.
     
  13. Jake LaMotta

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    Amateur pedigree means sweet **** all tbh. They're completely different, especially the helmet wearing era of amateur Boxing which most pro's of today took part in.

    I would agree with Kudra and Beterbiev. Besides their power they look very very average. Kudra is just a caveman with no co-ordination with hammers for hands. Beterbiev has a little more about him but still looks terrible for a pro boxer.
     
  14. Jake LaMotta

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    Great shout on Diablo...guy is a monster. In the same way, Drozd gets **** all love here, when he's clearly the best Cruiserweight as of now.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He's skilled at many things no doubt but he's always relied heavily on brute strength a little too much especially now as a pro, and I'm not sure if he gets in there with someone who can take his shots and can drag him into the latter rounds he'll hold up, his style is physically exhausting and its one thing to do that for a few rounds in the amateurs its another thing to do it for 12 grueling rounds. Its just something that I've got a gut feeling about with him.:conf