Interesting note about Ali's opponents...

A pattern emerges Clemmy when you know you've been schooled, you start to post incoherent waffle.
Quarry was the better fighter? Than Ali? Why not fight top ranked fighters? In April 1967 when Ali was banned Quarry had barely entered the rankings he was 21. How could Ali have fought him? He wasn't ranked before the ban, and obviously Ali couldn't fight him after the ban.
Oh and who did Ali fight for his first fight after the ban without a warm up after a lay off of 3 and a half years? Yes the 25 year old Jerry Quarry and Ali busted him up inside 3 rounds. Yea the better fighter
Schooled again Clemmy.

 

Quarry was not in the rankings yet was ranked over the guys ali fought at the time he fought ,them?You even used the HW tournament excuse ,yet Ali was not boxing then was he? you are scenile my friend that's about it! I don't care after the ban,that was not a 60's ranking discussion as you WISH it were! Not even your own kind is defending you on this because they know what I posted isn't really for dispute because I have facts posted,you have wishful thinking....scenile cecil is your new nickname :nut

 

It's took you all this time to come up with more incoherent and senseless waffle.
Quarry wasn't in the rankings yet was ranked over the guys he fought?!?! What are you talking about?
You instigated this by going on another rant about my post saying Ali on the way up never fought a man with a losing record. You produced a ranking list from December 1967 which was 8 months after the start of Ali's ban!!! Even then he'd beaten or would beat 6 fighters in that list.
I still don't think you realise Ali was actually banned for 3 and a half years, and how am I using the heavyweight tournament as an excuse tell me what you mean?
I'm really at a loss at what your actually arguing about here, obviously you've been completely schooled again and reverting to type you then change the argument, but it would help if people knew what that argument actually is.

 

He is ever weirder ( if that is possible ) on the other Lewis / Vitali thread, where HE posted this.

Now he is trying to claim Steward made this statement after the June 2003 fight.

My problem with that assumption is this.

Manny Steward was a respected commentator, and trainer whose first language was English, therefore one would have expected him to say.

" After Lennox has rematched, Tyson, he will then rematch the older Klit, then fight the younger one before retiring."

If indeed that was relevant to the date claim made by Auntie Bug, whose contribution to boxing by the way is the claim that he did, or still does spar with Latvian pig farmers, or similar nonentities.

I'd say it was a no brainer.

 

Well done, now you are behaving like a good little duck egg, and quacking on demand. If you keep up with the good work, and ONLY quack when you are told to, we might consider letting you hatch.:rofl:rofl

 

That's where generally the fighters were ranked ,he as posted as evidence did not fight the guys he should have,no flip flop on your part can change it...its all to see. you are the dumbest guy on here without a doubt. how do you know he would win? Funny if Lewis never fought Vitali and fought a guy like Ruiz instead it would be the end of his credibility. Ali Never fought the number one RANKED guy,he avoided that match up that's ridiculous for a HW champ to do so, folley wasn't even ranked idiot,did he get complety kicked off the rankings after his 67 fight?.....get it now.....:hi:

 

Your getting more indecipherable and resorting to more insults by the post,which is your way when you're completely schooled.
You know you've been largely posting inaccurate and untrue garbage which I've exposed and that's all you can come up with.
After having to fight the re-match with Liston in May '65 Ali defended the the title 8 times in 22 months until the Folley fight in March '67, he was banned thereafter.
Including Liston that's 9 defences in that time. Liston and Terrell were No 1 contenders the rest varied between 2 and 10 does the champion fight the No 1 contender every defence?
Which number 1 ranked guy in that timespan did he avoid tell me, he was actually in talks with Spencer but the fight was shelved because of the ban.

 

Using The Ring as a guide, Ali first landed in the rankings in the March 1962 issue (ratings as of 1/23/62) at #9

His Ring ranked opponents, at the time of the fight (not the cover date, but the "ratings as of..." date), are as follows:

Alejandro Lavorante #10
Archie Moore #5 (yes, at heavyweight)
Doug Jones #3
Henry Cooper #9
Sonny Liston - Champ
Sonny Liston #1
Floyd Patterson #1
George Chuvalo #9
Henry Cooper #4
Brian London unranked
Karl Mildenberger #3
Cleveland Williams #4
Ernie Terrell #1
Zora Folley #2
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Jerry Quarry #1
Oscar Bonavena #3
Joe Frazier - champ
Jimmy Ellis #7 (Ring didn't think highly of Ellis and had him ranked lower than other mags & organizations)
Buster Mathis - unranked
Juergen Blin - unranked (by summer 72 Blin was in the top ten)
Mac Foster #6
George Chuvalo - unranked
Jerry Quarry #2
Al Blue Lewis - unranked
Floyd Patterson #3
Bob Foster - LH champ
Joe Bugner #8
Ken Norton #9
Ken Norton #2
Rudi Lubbers - unranked
Joe Frazier #2
George Foreman - champ
Chuck Wepner #8
Ron Lyle #8
Joe Bugner #4
Joe Frazier #2
Jean-Pierre Coopman - unranked
Jimmy Young #3
Richard Dunn - unranked
Ken Norton #1
Alfredo Evangelista - unranked
Earnie Shavers #5
Leon Spinks #9
Leon Spinks - champ
Larry Holmes - champ
Trevor Berbick #7

 

also, someone ought to say kliturd self destructs again at this point

 

Foxy when you type you use the word "we" all the time,,,

as in, "we may consider letting you hatch"

you are the only one Foxy, there is no "WE",, well the "WE" is your confusions of your own multiple personalities :thumbsup

you're welcome :rasta

 

Wlad and Vits obviously frustrate you HerolGee

you know what that means ??

it means you are secretly jealous of the Klits as you perceive them both as superior to you. Thus they frustrate you and those that fan boy them appear to be mocking you :hat :deal

 

it says who he didn't fight by 1967 Ernire Terrell that 210 pound 6'6 guy right?How long did that fight last? Again all you do is confuse b.s with non irrelevant juibberish...lets be clear as well...when Ali fought an ACTUAL prime number one ranked guy he LOST! I know you like to forget that and replace Cleveland Williams as the best of his performances...a handicapped guy ..YEARS past his prime!

 

Again what are you talking about? He fought Terrell, by the way the number 1 contender in Feb '67. Yes it lasted 15 rounds because Ali rather cruelly carried him, everybody knows that, I see your weight obsession crept in there again.
Every number 1 ranked contender he fought as champion he beat, your wrong again, Frazier and Holmes were champions.
Anyone can pick apart any fighters resume do you want me to start on Wlad's? Of course Ali had stay busy easy money fights who's arguing, but it's totally indisputable he fought everyone he could the word duck just didn't enter his vocabulary. Please though tell me who he ducked between '65 and '67 you seem to be having difficulty naming this fighter.
This whole crusade you've obsessively embarked upon to rubbish Ali's resume which has obviously taken over your sad life is all because the general consensus is that Ali is greater than Wlad.
You see there's nothing wrong with saying Wlad beats Ali it's a legitimate opinion, I can see Wlad's attributes, but you see I'm a boxing fan, you are simply the ultimate immature little fanboy.

 

You're wasting your time Cec. There's basically nothing you can do about lack of intelligence.