Which Fight Made The Following ATG's

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  1. sas6789

    sas6789 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Out of these ATG's which would you say was their defining fight that made them an ATG?

    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Muhammad Ali
    Roberto Duran
    Sugar Ray Leonard
    Tommy Hearns
    Marvin Hagler
    Carlos Monzon
    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones Jr
    Bob Foster
    Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
    Pernell Whitaker
    Lennox Lewis
    Mike Tyson
    Evander Hollyfield
    Manny Pacquiao
    Floyd Mayweather Jr
     
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    I think with Manny it might be when he sat Morales down and made him stay down.

    Saying that, that was more of a moment. Like "this guy is something!". Where you could argue that it was Manny's "Mexicutioner" run that cemented his status as an ATG.
     
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    Sugar Ray Robinson - Jake LaMotta V
    Muhammad Ali - Joe Frazier I
    Roberto Duran - Sugar Ray Leonard I
    Sugar Ray Leonard - Thomas Hearns I
    Tommy Hearns - Roberto Duran
    Marvin Hagler - Thomas Hearns
    Carlos Monzon - Rodrigo Valdez II
    Bernard Hopkins - Tito Trinadad
    Roy Jones Jr - James Toney
    Bob Foster - **** Tiger
    Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - Meldrick Taylor I
    Pernell Whitaker - Azumah Nelson
    Lennox Lewis - Evander Hollyfield I
    Mike Tyson - Michael Spinks
    Evander Hollyfield - Mike Tyson I
    Manny Pacquiao - Erik Morales II
    Floyd Mayweather Jr - Oscar De La Hoya
     
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    Sugar Ray Robinson - TKO 13 Jake LaMotta
    Muhammad Ali - KO 8 George Foreman
    Roberto Duran - KO 12 Esteban DeJesus
    Sugar Ray Leonard - TKO 14 Tommy Hearns
    Tommy Hearns - KO 2 Roberto Duran
    Marvin Hagler - KO 3 Tommy Hearns
    Carlos Monzon - W15 Bennie Briscoe/W15 Rodrigo Valdez ll
    Bernard Hopkins - TKO 12 Felix Trinidad
    Roy Jones Jr - W12 James Toney
    Bob Foster - KO 4 Richard Ihetu
    Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - TKO 11 Edwin Rosario
    Pernell Whitaker - D12 Julio Cesar Chavez
    Lennox Lewis - KO 4 Hasim Rahman
    Mike Tyson - KO 2 Trevor Berbick
    Evander Hollyfield - TKO 11 Mike Tyson
    Manny Pacquiao - TKO 9 Marco Antonio Barrera
    Floyd Mayweather Jr - W12 Oscar De La Hoya
     
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    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good list. I think I might put Cleveland Williams for Ali, not that it was a good opponent, but it was clear that Ali was a great fighter. Also, Holyfield was ATG after Bowe Ii or possibly Douglas considering the cruiser resume.
     
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    Sugar Ray Robinson - Joey Maxim
    Muhammad Ali - Joe Fraier III
    Roberto Duran - Sugar Ray Leonard I
    Sugar Ray Leonard - Roberto Duran II
    Tommy Hearns - Not an ATG
    Marvin Hagler - Not an ATG
    Carlos Monzon - Not an ATG
    Bernard Hopkins - I don't think it was a certain fight, I think it was his whole career along with the fact that he could stay around even at 50.
    Roy Jones Jr - Whole Career (He could end the fight with 1 punch)
    Bob Foster - Not an ATG
    Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - Whole Career
    Pernell Whitaker - Julio Cesar Chavez Sr
    Lennox Lewis - Vitali Klitschko
    Mike Tyson - Not an ATG
    Evander Hollyfield - Not an ATG
    Manny Pacquiao - Not an ATG
    Floyd Mayweather Jr - Not an ATG
     
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    I agree.
    Bowe 2 put him in a select club. Only Patterson and Ali before him had regained the real HW title.
    He actually proved a hell of a lot in Bowe 1 from where I was sitting.
     
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    Which fight would you say it was then?
     
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    Sugar Ray Robinson - Joey Maxim
    Muhammad Ali - George Foreman
    Roberto Duran - SLR 1
    Sugar Ray Leonard - Tommy Hearns
    Tommy Hearns - Roberto Duran
    Marvin Hagler - Tommy Hearns
    Carlos Monzon - Rodrigo Valdez ll
    Bernard Hopkins - Felix Trinidad
    Roy Jones Jr - James Toney
    Bob Foster - **** Tiger
    Julio Cesar Chavez Sr - Edwin Rosario
    Pernell Whitaker - Julio Cesar Chavez
    Lennox Lewis - Evander Holyfield
    Mike Tyson - Michael Spinks
    Evander Holyfield - Mike Tyson
    Manny Pacquiao - Marco Antonio Barrera
    Floyd Mayweather Jr - Oscar De La Hoya
     
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    Tommy Hearns was a natural Middleweight or Jr. Middle. He left 147 at like 22 years old.

    He just grew into his natural frame.
     
  11. Saad54

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    Foster, Hagler, Monzon, Holyfield, Tyson, Pacquiao not ATG but Lewis is and qualifies because he won on a cut in a fight he may well have lost if it went longer? GTFO
     
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    TKO - 6.

    Get over it, stupid.
     
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    You honestly want to give credit to Pac, for beating a shot to bits Morales? What you should seriously consider is giving credit to a semi shot Erik for beating the prime Pacman in their first encounter.:lol::lol::lol:
     
  14. Saad54

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    I'm not saying Lewis isn't an ATG, I am just saying these other guys are too, and the Vitali fight wasn't Lewis's best performance or most significant victory.
     
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    ATG's are fighters in the Top 10 p4p all time. Everyone else is just exremely talented.

    Foster had a glass chin and didn't beat anyone great.

    Hagler I was mixed about, he had a basic style but had a great jab and the 2nd greatest chin in boxing history. He would be outpointed by alot of fighters and barely beat Duran.

    Monzon beat past prime Emile Griffith and waay past prime Jose Napoles. His resume was pretty weak and consisted of a bunch of nobodies.

    Holyfield got schooled by James Toney and was on HGH so he is immediately disqualified.

    Tyson got stopped too many times and didn't beat any great fighters in their prime.

    Pacquiao isn't on the list because I don't consider anyone from the last 15 years due to the amount of PED usage in the sport.

    GTFO