Is roman gonzales that good or

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  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    You can just look at how he fights and you know you're looking at something special, nothing to do with any talent pool shortage at lower weights.
     
  2. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prefight excuse duly noted.:deal
     
  3. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Or, y'know...they could be pretty good. Tete and Mthalane are very good.
     
  4. Estes

    Estes Active Member Full Member

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    It seems a lot of people don't actually WATCH fighters to decide how good they are these days.
     
  5. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    It's a combo of talent and lack of depth in the extreme low weight divisions.
    To be the no 1 strawweight or light flyweight in Europe for instance, all you have to do is make the weight and make it into the ring in that condition.
    But if you look at Gonzo, you can't deny the talent he has. Maybe looks can be deceiving due to the quality of the opposition, but he really seems to be the real deal.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    No shortage of talent...

    Takayama is among the most highly relevant strawweights of the era

    Niida was the solid #1 strawweight at the time

    Estrada lost to Roman immediately before booming to the big time

    Rodriguez lost to Roman immediately before becoming a unified titlist himself

    Yaegashi is a known good fighter, been in a FOTY, who was legit lineal Fly king

    Edgar Sosa was faded and is one of those dudes who you can forget about but had a truly great career and Brian Viloria, should he defeat him, will be a big notable name with a similar description I've vaguely used here for Sosa
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    Plus if you follow 115 and below you would see that a lot of his cupcake and stay-busy wins are at least against highly known journeymen.
     
  7. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I was just making a parody out of what 'certain' people say about Caucasian fighters in the lower weight classes :yep

    Those fighters are good though :deal
     
  8. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I know, I was just kidding :yep
     
  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Good fighter but mosquito fighting is a tad lame.
     
  10. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It doesn't matter that there aren't as many flyweights as middleweights overall when the talent at the top is as great as it is and has been the last several years at flyweight. Despite the prevalence of mismatches in boxing elite fighters rarely fight guys that would be worse than the best 30 or so in the division.
     
  11. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could say the same thing about the best Asian middleweight or larger, who wouldn't be able to test and develop himself till he gets beyond his domestic level.
     
  12. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he is amazing and fluid so natural just a beauty to watch
     
  13. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Technically this. Much more diversity among this group. Of course, that is pfp, taking size off the table as "talent".
     
  14. masterold

    masterold Active Member Full Member

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    Good thing boxing has weight classes not height classes then.
     
  15. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    There are no "height classes", because weight is more important, but height is implicitly regulated by them. It becomes virtually impossible for someone to be average heighted and fight at Chocolito's weight. It takes a real genetic freak like Hearns to be a tall man and be able to not be too drained to fight at the lower weight classes.

    Anyway, his point would have been better served by saying less than 1% of grown men are 112 pounds or lighter.

    Edit: Actually, the 1% mark seemed real low to me, so I tried to look it up online. Graphs I saw suggested about 2-3% of American males are 5'3 or below.