Hauser strikes back again!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rathalos, Oct 14, 2015.


  1. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    USADAand the NSAC have clearly stated that Floyd did nothing wrong and moved on, but some hack journalist with a grudge keep spewing bull****.
     
  2. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's almost tantamount to complaining about a journalist, who questions the injustice of an accused criminal being declared 'Not Guilty', by their co-defendant and accessory after the fact.
     
  3. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    These guys want SO bad to put a stain on this guy's legacy. Not gonna happen.

    If Floyd has been doping all these years, he's operating on a diabolical level to have covered tracks so well.

    It must be killing these haters to follow these little "clues" that really lead to nowhere. In essence Floyd is way smarter than all these so called smart, informed people.
     
  4. Palooka

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    Lance Armstrong operated undetected at the highest levels for like 15 years.

    I'm curious, do you think Pacquiao used PEDs?
     
  5. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lance Armstrong was accused of doping over 10 years before he was actually found guilty. His failed retests triggered a full on investigation and indictment later on. Floyd hasn't been under fire like that.

    I think Pac avoided random testing as long as he could. But, I've seen nothing solid that would prove he did PEDs. So, no, I don't think so.
     
  6. BoxedOut

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    the circumstances are already ****ing into your eyes and you still deny this? :patsch
     
  7. Palooka

    Palooka Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, there have been accusations and questions regarding Mayweather using PEDs for years now too. Also multiple suspicious test results. It's just reached a fever pitch because of this whole IV thing.

    No ironclad proof as of now but, like you said, it took over 10 years to nail Armstrong. Whether or not Mayweather is guilty of PED usage, hopefully this ends up leading to more transparency in the sport. Athletes directly paying drug testing agencies varying sums of money just seems to be an insane practice.

    Fair enough.
     
  8. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Show me one shred of clear evidence that's not speculation or hearsay.
     
  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ROFLMAO The NSAC & USADA are in this cess pit of corruption up to their a$$es How on earth can a fellow conspirator clear another ?????????????
    Thomas Hauser is an honest man that loves the sport of boxing & detests anyone that blatantly cheats to get success he does NOT deserve.
    Set up an international boxing commission put Thomas Hauser & Teddy Atlas at the head of it. Both men love the sport & detest corruption
     
  10. LordSouness

    LordSouness Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dehydration isn't a reason for the IV, it might be by-product or symptom of the reason, but it isn't the reason for the IV and nobody has said it was.

    To qualify for use it would need to be something more substantial.

    For example - and to tie it into his testosterone epitestosterone ratio - he could have diabetes (which, to my knowledge both Jeff and Roger have). Complete speculation here, of course, but all symptoms would be explained right away. However, if that is indeed his issue, then don't you see why he deserves the same privacies as any other person who has it?

    This boils down to whether you think USADA would ruin their own organisation simply to appease a guy who isn't going to fight again or not and, even though it's more than fair to question their handling of things, until we have proper Olympic Style Blood Testing - year-round - in boxing then there's really no point in getting upset with how things go just now. It's all stupid.

    How can we criticise people who voluntarily put themselves through the process when you have fighters who won't touch it with a ****ty stick? Shouldn't we be criticising so-called champions who have never had this process in any of their fights? Aren't they the ones we should actually be suspicious of?

    For me, any fighter signed to HBO or Showtime should be subject to these conditions year-round. Any fighter carrying one of the straps should be in the same boat. To qualify for a title shot, you should have to have been subject to this testing for a 12 month period. It should all be standard stuff.
     
  11. Palooka

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    Mayweather is talking about dark urine, which would be caused by dehydration and Ellerbe literally says it was for "just rehydration." Did you watch the video?

    This is exactly what people are up in arms about. There was no reason given, other than "just rehydration" and that doesn't add up! Not to mention the method was against the rules and for some reason didn't get approved for a TUE until three weeks after the fight.
     
  12. Palooka

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    Man, I just watched the first minute or so of that video again. Mayweather's initial "response" is amazing. He pretends to not understand the question in order to buy time, trying to form some sort of response, ends up mumbling something and then immediately looks over at Ellerbe for help.
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    As far as I'm concerned Mayweather CHEATED!!! He knew full well that illegal saline drips Far in excess of the amounts a hospital would give a patient in an emergeancy, was breaking the rules. NSAC & USADA let him apply for a TUE NINETEEN days after he was caught red handed having it
    That in any sane unbiased honest persons eyes is CHEATING!!!!!!!!!!!
    Forget Mayweather his whole career is tainted IF he ever get indicted into the HOF that will be the biggest insult anyone could give to the many great champions enshrined there
     
  14. dan4579

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    To me I feel like it's likely Floyd used USADA to make sure his opponent was clean while he wasn't. That's the biggest character issue here for me and if that turns out to be the case he truly is a world class POS.
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    In my book dan that is EXACTLY what he is an ATG POS:fire