Who do you rate as the UK's top P4P fighter?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Super Hans, Sep 29, 2015.


  1. Team Burnett

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    you know full well that Dan was his mandatory so why troll... (plus he was coming back from getting stabbed)

    Gavin was taken at short notice...and you yourself actually tipped Gavin to win!

    I haven't seen Chaves but apparently he's good

    Brook is the IBF champion of the world
    What is Khan? What belts does he have? Who the hell has he beat in recent years?
     
  2. Super Hans

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    Yet you picked Gavin and Porter to annihilate Brook. :lol:

    And by saying Chaves is a bum- well none of Thurman, Bradley or Rios made him look like one, so if Brook does he must be waaaaayyyy above those guys. :hi:

    Let's just be real here. You are upset about Brook because he constantly proves you wrong. :hi:
     
  3. DeathEater

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    The fact that so many casuals on this thread have Brook has number 1 validates Eddies choice of continued bums for Brook.

    If he can get away with brook fighting tomato cans and casuals eat it up more power to them.

    It's all about money at the end of the day so really k can't blame brook for his poor record.
     
  4. Super Hans

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    He's not fighting tomato cans like Wilder.

    The fact that you think Dan, Gavin and Chaves are 'tomato cans' and don't understand that Al Haymon and Bob Arum are reluctant to feed their top superstars to Brook identifies you as the casual here. :deal
     
  5. Brixton Bomber

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    What have the three you mentioned done as pro's?
     
  6. Super Hans

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    Here is the deal, name me the fighter that will happily jump in with Brook at Welterweight right now and his handlers (Arum or Haymon) just allow it, that you would be happy with.

    And if Brook didn't fight his mandatory, other than his title, why would they take the risk of fighting someone as good as Brook. And for the record, Bundu, Khan, Bradley, Porter, Sadam Ali & Devon Alexander all turned down the chance to face Brook in final eliminators.

    Bradley I believe will be the first one to do it next year but not till after Rios when Arum's exhausted all Bradley's Top Rank options.


    You do know boxing is a business right and Kell Brook can't click his fingers and Mayweather, Khan, Pacquiao, Bradley and Thurman are suddenly in the ring with him? :think I'm worrying your butthurt that Brook has proved you wrong has lead you not to recognise this..
     
  7. Badaman

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    Khan's welterweight resume look horrendous now after Alexander's defeat to a journeyman
     
  8. Brixton Bomber

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    My god you are a clown.

    MOST welters are tied up with the two you mentioned.

    Brooks title is the worst of the lot. The IBF. Jesus, that makes the WBO look like the WBC!

    You really think the top guys are ducking KELL BROOK? You are a f*cking idiot, Hans.

    Honest to god, you are the biggest and most annoying idiot on here now. From your little fm's on "Zaggers" etc to being so brainwashed by your own boas that you think the top fighters abroad are ducking some little poof with a lisp. Besides, Thurman has said he'll fight him.

    If Kell is so good, why doesn't he pop back over to the states and clean up? or is he that stupid that he thinks the top yanks are going to come to SHEFFIELD to face him?!?!
     
  9. Brixton Bomber

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    You avoided my question. What have those three done in the pro game...

    Gavin is known as being a massive underachiever.

    Chaves has never won a meaningful fight.

    Dan is nothing.
     
  10. Badaman

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    Brook is so good he makes everyone looks ****, trust me.. if khan ever dares step in the ring with Kell ( I highly doubt he ever will) Khan will be made to look so novice like . That's what the top fighters do... Golovkin made Lemeuix look really poor last night.
     
  11. Super Hans

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    So you can't actually name a single top fighter that would jump in or be allowed to jump in with Kell Brook can you?

    And other than becoming mandatory for the IBF how else was he going to get a title shot. He was top rated by WBO when Pacquiao was champ. Did the WBO ever demand Pac fight him no. Would the WBA and WBC ever demand Mayweather fight him or strip him of the title? Nope.

    So to that end, I see the bigger names and their promoters do not want to fight Brook because their is something in boxing called 'risk v reward'. Brook is a very difficult fight when they could have in house fights for less risk. It's simple.

    Thurman has said he will fight Brook. What Thurman actually said after his last fight was 'you know who to call, his name is Al Haymon'. Haymon has not even entertained the idea of allowing Khan to fight Brook for 5 times what Thurman v Brook would be, so what do you think his answer would be to that, especially after Brook alreadly exposed an undefeated fighter in his own stable.

    And if Thurman is so keen to fight Brook......why has he never had his people contact Brook's people :think

    And which fighter over in the States will fight Brook? Plus being that a fight with Bradley would take place on Sky Box Office. Brook v Bradley sells on Box Office at 10pm. It doesn't at 4am. It also sells more tickets over here, hence why that is where it should (and Bob Arum has apparently agreed) and would take place.

    And being that Bradley is a big name and will also be shown on HBO, then Brook becomes a marketable opponent for Pacquiao, and maybe Khan will finally take the risk.

    Class dismissed. :hi:
     
  12. Brixton Bomber

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    Thurman said he'd do it.

    Oh god, the poor "Kell is hard done by" excuse. If he made money and brought something to the table, I'm sure he'd have been an opponent for Manny. You can't make out Manny's avoided him when he's been in with Mayweather, Cotto, Margarito, can you? :lol::lol:

    You do know that EVERYONE IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION is after the big pay day against Manny or Floyd, right? Keith is no different. It's just that Kell is actually that thick that he really believe Eddie will land him either fight and is content fighting the pointless mandatories so he can hold onto a belt which is supposed to be his bargaining tool, but he might as well not have it as he isn't using it to bargain his way into a MEGA FIGHT, you tool. Fair play to Kell for actually believing that Manny or Floyd will have a mega showdown with him at Brammal Lane. Get me some of what he's on...

    What is he using that title as? He's not going abroad and the division doesn't care about him. NOBODY needs Kell Brook. Kell is 12 years and 35 odd fights deep into his career - HE needs everyone else at this moment in time.

    I said that when Kell won he will NEVER face top opposition again. He will never go back to the states and he will hold that belt hostage. He won that belt 14 months ago and what I said would happen is coming true.

    And in all honesty, if Kell doesn't fight Khan after the Chaves fight, what's left for him? Another mando? He HAS to go to the states again, simple. But Eddie won't allow it, you watch. And if he doesn't go abroad it will be "we're working a big one after his next mandatory..." which Kell will then be THIRTEEN YEARS as a pro with ONE decent name on his record.
     
  13. Badaman

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    what's Brixton Bomber gonna do when Brook Cleans out the division like he probably will and becomes the divisions number 1. he won't give Brook any credit whatsoever.. won't admit Brook is a top fighter, he takes being a Khan muslim superfan to the extreme.
     
  14. N17

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    The votes are in, the people have spoken, not that I agree with Brook being top of that list but I agree Khan is not near the top.
     
  15. Super Hans

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    Thurman said he do it, but you have to go through Al Haymon to request it. Do you think Al Haymon wants Thurman to fight Brook? I don't. Risk/ reward. Learn that. And if Thurman will fight anyone whatever the risk, why didn't he fight Errol Spence?

    So being that Thurman, or at least his handlers won't do it, you have failed to name the big name fighter that him or his handlers will fight Brook.

    Therefore being that none of Haymons guys (such as Danny garcia, Thurman, Broner, etc) will not take the risk, and Arum won't risk the likes of Crawford or Pacquiao to be cashed out on him at this stage, you can't name one.

    The options for next year will be Bradley who will be pretty much out of options with Top Rank and Khan if he is willing to make the step up and doesn't get the Pacquiao fight. A win over them makes a big splash on both sides of the globe then he can sell PPV at 4am over here, guys who avoided the mando shot see a mando against Brook as being a marketable fight, etc.

    You seem to understand why people don't fight GGG and why he doesn't fight them, yet you ignore it with Brook and act like it's a Wilder situation. I sense EXTREME levels of butt hurt. Did you lose money on Brook v Porter? Or Brook v Gavin? (who you said beats him).