The more I watch Floyd vs Castillo 1...

i didn't watch it in a couple of years but i had floyd winning close.

it's not his best performance but in terms of evaluating his career it is important because it was one of the few times he had adversity to overcome. obviously we don't know how bad the injury was but the rematch suggests it was pretty bad.

 

Quit watching it. Castillo clearly won that fight... unless you give rounds to guys for doing nothing.

 

I had Castillo by a point. But could also see a draw. Have a hard time giving it to Floyd.

 

Had it initially the same way but mayweather as the head

 

The rematch doesn't suggest shlt! Look, Mayweather was well prepared for the rematch and did what he had to do to win a decision.

Castillo was very determined against a young Mayweather (in their first fight) who was fighting his first major fight at LW. Castillo should have gotten the decision over the former JLW. What people fail to remember is how close the rematch was... the judges actually had the rematch closer (115-113 twice and 116-113, which is fine). Their first fight was scored 115-111 twice and 116-111... fvcking bullshlt if you ask me!

I've never seen so many excuses and justifications made for a fighter with no losses before... Joe Calzaghe is close though.

He had a lot of decision wins. Most of these fights were not close on the scorecards but many of them should have been. He won a lot of close rounds where not much really happened (like 1/2 of his career). I'm not saying he didn't deserve to win most of these fights, but not by the margins some of the judges gave him. Guys who gave him trouble:

Carlos Hernandez- landed some good hooks and won 4 rounds, he got credited with a knockdown but it really wasn't.

Castillo x2- I thought Castillo won the first fight, the rematch was actually close

Judah- if you don't think this fight was close, watch it again

DeLaHoya- I thought DeLaHoya won

Cotto

Alvarez

Maidana x2- I thought Maidana won the first fight, the rematch was closer than people like to admit

Pacquiao- I had it even despite the fact that Pacquiao was fighting with an injured shoulder

Hatton had a few moments before getting stopped.

Mosley rocked the shlt out of Mayweather despite being 100 years old.

Ortiz was doing very well before going full returd and getting stopped.

Marciano left little doubt... with a few exceptions. His first win over LaStarza was close. Marciano dropped LaStarza in the 4th round but he lost the 8th due to a low blow. Marciano stopped him in the 11th round of their rematch. His first win over Ezzard Charles was close, he stopped Charles in the 8th round of their rematch.

Sure, he was dropped by Walcott and Moore (he dropped Moore 5 times)... he got up and stopped both of them. He was also cut badly vs. Charles (in the rematch)... but he went on to stop him in that fight.

Calzaghe won some very close decisions, some of them questionable. His wins over Robin Reid, Kessler, Hopkins (dropped), and Jones (dropped) were all close. Brewer (who was past prime) and Bika had a few decent momemts. Who else did he fight? Eubank was well past prime and Lacy proved he really wasn't that special.

 

if a fighter looks injured, says he was injured, then looks better in the rematch i'd think it's fair to say the rematch suggests he was really injured.

could you not find anything to hate in the canelo or cotto fights? i'd say go with canelo being overrated and drained and cotto shot and coming off other bad results.

 

I buy that he was injured in the first fight but he was also pretty unimpressive in the rematch. It's not like the healthy Mayweather dominated him all that decisively.

 

I had Mayweather by a point or two. Wider rewarching it

 

You're right, Mayweather didn't dominate at all. And it doesn't matter how many times I've watched the first fight, Castillo was the one who came closer to dominating.

 

The rematch didn't suggest that. All it proved was Mayweather was the better man that night. And it wasn't a decisive win or anything like that. He won, but just barely. People act like Mayweather took it serious this time and dominated.

 

Lacy wasn't special at all AFTER Calzaghe whipped him. Remember all those "experts" who thought of Lacy as a lower case Tyson...seriously...any low rating of Lacy is purely revisionist hind site.

 

i don't think either fighter dominated either fight.

i also don't buy floyd not taking the first fight seriously.

but i do think floyd looked more comfortable and his left sharper in the rematch, hence my statement that the rematch supports his claim he was injured for fight 1.