Fury the best HW challenger in years?

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    First off, I hope Wlad wins and think he will. But I actually think this is a real interesting bout for him, that will challenge him in ways he hasn't been challenged before. And I could see an upset. This fight reminds me of Vitali/Lewis, Grant/Lewis, ****ey/Holmes and Ali/Liston. A much younger, larger challenger taking on a highly regarded champ. Wlad has never been against someone this much larger than him, particularly not with Fury's volume punching ability and relative speed. I don't think Fury's got the chin or discipline to cope with Wlad, but if he does, if he has a better chin than he's shown to this point (taking after Ali, who was regarded as chinny to that point in his career, and not Grant, who was proven to have the chin issues everyone suspected all along), then I think the size and workrate advantage for Fury will pose Wlad some real problems.
     
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  2. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think it's more predicated on Wlads age and last performance than anything fury does
     
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  3. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wlad is 40 so now every challanger is the best in years . If that was prime wlad fighting Fury I'd say wlad by KO , but with wlad being old and past prime I give fury very good chance to win.
     
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  4. Robney

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    I rate Jennings and certainly Povetkin (much) higher, and about on par with Pulev.

    Why do these Brit challengers get so overrated around here?
     
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  5. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    In general Brits are delusional fanatics , every time before every major soccer tournament they think they are one of the favorite teams to win altough they haven't won anything for more than 50 years.
     
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  6. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You seem to have a real problem with Brits and like to make stuff up about them?

    We generally expect to be out of the World Cup before the quarters...you seem to have been upset by a brit in the past and now have a grudge. Cheer up mate it can't have been that bad.
     
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  7. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Agreed. Fury handled Chisora much easier than Haye, and if I dare say so, Vitali.

    Of course it could have also been just a bad mesh for Chisora style-wise and Fury could turn out to be subpar. But so far I'm sold.
     
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  8. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Nothing to do with him being a brit, did you see the other fights I compared this too? I rate this much higher than Povetkin or Jennings in interest, even he winds up doing worse than either, because I can at least see him beating Wlad, unlike Jennings or Povetkin. Both just too small and nothing else to really distinguish them. Even if they had one, one senses it would have just been a lucky punch or Wlad getting old. Here there's a sense of a potential for a generational change, a larger HW with different skills supplanting the older guard.

    Again, I'm not saying I think this is how it will play out, just that its more interesting than a Povetkin fight where we know Wlad can clinch and keep him at range, and that povetkin would need to work his way inside for any chance of success.
     
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  9. madballster

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    They said the same about Haye -- "Best challenger he has ever faced". Same about Pulev "Best challenger of the last 5 years".

    People forget that Wlad has a tendency to rise to the occasion. He dominates those who are supposed to be legit challengers, and occasionally looks bad against those who he's supposed to steamroll easily (Jennings, Thompson I, Chambers).
     
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  10. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    "They" do, everyone has a different opinion. I never saw Pulev as any kind of real threat, he was a poor man's Wlad in every way, his strong suits are size, jab, discipline, outmatched in all of those by Wlad. Haye was a challenge for his power and speed, but less interesting to me because it would have been more of a fluky style win over Wlad if he had won, not because he was simply bigger and better. Fury's the only guy, if he were to somehow beat the odds and win, who could really claim that.
     
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  11. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Ortiz would be a better challenger than Fury.
     
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  12. Maggo

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    no !!!
     
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  13. HerolGee

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    fury is a clown of the highest order, if you'll forgive the pun.

    Cant wait to see him lose on points.
     
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  14. theanatolian

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    Povetkin, Jennings and Pulev had better resumes than Fury going into Wlad fight.
     
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  15. Maggo

    Maggo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What the hell does Fury have that People call him the best Opponent for Wlad in years?

    He is tall.... ok
    He can sing Elvis songs... ok
    He owns a batman costume... ok

    But also...
    He is fat and not really trained...
    His ducked already Povetkin, Pulev, Ustinov, Price, Thompson and even Wlad...
    His best victory is against Cunningham with a foul KO
    He rematched with journeyman Chisora
    He is slow
    He has no power
    He has a glass chin
    He has no defense

    Tyson Fury is dead men walking and we all know that, even Tyson himself knows that his retirement is coming next month :deal
     
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