Is Ward going to LHW because of Degale?

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  1. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a feeling (or theory), which will be invalidated if and when Ward finally faces an unbeaten Kovalev, whose mystique has remained intact. Although, I suspect Stevenson will be targeted before Kovalev.

    That said, if the 'Ward Inactivity Saga' continues into 2016 and beyond, I will start to find it difficult to defend Ward's motives and actions. Right now, I can see why he'd want/need to go up a division, as well as take a little time to optimise his performance at LHW.
     
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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    ah that ol' failey feeling
     
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  3. Loudon

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    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/170843-mri-reveals-ward-beat-froch-with-a-broken-left-hand

    I've never heard anyone but yourself claim that the fight was close.
     
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's not going to challenge Kov when he's hardly fought in the last three years.
     
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  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure he's going to LHW because of his body and 97% because of HBO.
     
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  6. Loudon

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    He was used as a tune up and nothing more.
     
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  7. Jake LaMotta

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  8. Loudon

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    Very harsh.

    I think the Bute clash would have happened if Carl hadn't have crushed him.

    He fought Dawson who had speed and skills, and who was more proven than Bute and DeGale. It's just a shame that he was drained. But unless Ward knew for a fact that he'd be drained, you have to give him credit for taking the fight. I've debated this with Bailey numerous times. It made zero sense to duck Bute to then fight Dawson.

    Is there any evidence to support the theory that Ward's ducking DeGale?
     
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  9. Loudon

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    :lol:

    I don't think anyone can dispute it.
     
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  10. bailey

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  11. bailey

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    Not in his first fight back. No. Hes had that fight now against Smith. Maybe another fight between?
    Still didnt S R Leonard go after Hagler after a big absence or V Klitschko go after the WBC champ after a big absense
     
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  12. bailey

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    Why the catchweight and not just LHW?
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know that, I was responding to anther poster. Please dont interrupt a conversation :nono
     
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  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Where have I ever said that? I havent, so please stop making things up
     
    bailey, Oct 21, 2015
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  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stop it Loudon.
    Dawson had no pedigree at SMW. None.
    Dawson wasnt more proven, he had a few popular names on his resume, but had lost to Pascal and many of the so called names on his resume was made up of facing fighters alot older.

    Dawson in his middle 20s won a LHW title against Adamek who had been life and death at LHW against Briggs
    He makes his first defence against Ruiz
    2nd defence was Mendoza
    Then gets a disputed decision against a near 40 year old G Johnson

    Look below and consider Dawsons age at the time

    Hopkins 47
    Hopkins 46
    Diaconu 32
    Pascal (he lost)
    Johnson 40
    Tarver 40
    Tarver 39
    Johnson 39
     
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