If what Ward fanboys WANT to happen happens in boxing- the sport would die

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  1. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Here is an example of something that would be good for boxing.

    - GGG v Lemieux is a rip roaring success at the box office.
    - Canelo v Cotto is also a huge success (for the purposes of the example let's say Canelo wins)
    - Knowing it will be a huge success on PPV Canelo decides the reward for fighting a monster like Golovkin is well worth the risk despite being the underdog, he happily takes that fight. HBO continue to use Gonzalez after the success of the last PPV and pair him off in a rematch with Estrada. The GGG/ Canelo fights a big success and the winner is the new face of boxing (in this example we will use GGG)
    - Ward finally accepts he is no longer A-side against GGG, and after clearing out the Middleweight division, he moves up and challenges the Super Middleweight king, in another huge event. The winner of that goes onto be a bigger star and the drums start banging fro a showdown with Kovalev.
    - The stars become so big that the money for fights with people within Al Haymon's PBC is too much to ignore, and they improve their mediocre product to make stars worthy of fighting these guys rather than just sticking together random fights with Razor Ruddock and Vivian Harris on the undercard.

    You get the picture.

    This is what Ward fanboys want to happen

    - GGG v Lemieux to be a miserable failure at the box office
    - The Cotto v Canelo winner to decide the money for the GGG fight isn't worth it and try and call Mayweather out of retirement instead, as of course boxing isn't ready to move on without Money :tired
    - The PPV gets partly blamed on Gonzalez and he is sent back to Mexico and Japan in none televised bouts
    - GGG to accept Ward's terms as to a fight which means 168, in Oakland, with pillow gloves, giant ring, Earl Hebner as ref, and no drug testing to limit GGG's chances to win.


    -----Let's say Ward does win and schools GGG as his fans say he will and if he does it will obviously be a boring fight.

    Then what? I liken it to when Rigondeaux beat Donaire. Donaire was building some good momentum but his star had yet to be fully established. Suddenly they put him in with Rigo he loses in a boring fight, people don't want to see Rigo again because he has a boring style (like Ward) and a dull as dishwater personality (like Ward), only fights once every blue moon (like Ward), and only the hardcore fans really care about him (like Ward). The knock on effect was Donaire had lost plenty of his aura, the chances of the money being big enough to thaw the cold war and have a TR-GBP fight had gone and people didn't really care about the fights Donaire was in either. So let's say for arguments sake that Ward schools GGG in Jokeland. Here is what would happen:

    - Ward continues to fight only once every blue moon, but his ego becomes even bigger and wants less and less of an even playing field. No fans however want to watch him fight again after stinking the joint out.
    - Because of this Haymon decides to keep putting on garbage due to the lack of competition
    - Boxing dies
     
  2. runner_phob

    runner_phob Active Member Full Member

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    Good news is that GGG is way better than Donaire, while Ward is worse than Rigo.

    So, GGG would stop Ward even in Oakland with any gloves. He may need to knock Ward's pocket ref out first though :)
     
  3. Super Hans

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    Let's not forget though, Ward will make GGG wait months to fight him, while he gets juiced to the bloody gills. And takes Golovkin to Suplex City™ with WWE ref Mike Chidoa letting Ward get away with. :-(
     
  4. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Where are the Ward fanboys to explain why they want boxing to die? :think
     
  5. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    :respect One of the ATG posts this site has ever had. I mean that
    too my man. I'm not being sarcastic, beleive me. That was not
    only spot on, but it speaks volumes about todays new boxing fan
    base of apathetic socialist neoliberal types who are lazy minded and
    full of racial and bigoted pride so much so that they'd kill there own
    hobby to make a point.
     
  6. Super Hans

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    Cordial salutations :thumbsup
     
  7. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Ward fans want GGG to achieve as little success as possible if it's not GGG facing him (Ward that is), plain and simple. They also for some reason falsely believe that it will increase the likelihood of the Ward fight, they think that Canelo not fighting GGG will somehow immediately prompt him to move up when in fact the exact opposite is the case. Pure re****ation really.
     
  8. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You will of course be dubbed a Ward hater and a GGG fanboy, but I think you make a lot of great points here. Odd that there weren't many "Ward fanboys" here until Mayweather was retiring though...must just be a coincidence.
     
  9. Super Hans

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    Yep. Unlike Ward, GGG understands he needs to be a B-side first (to Cotto/ Canelo), before he becomes a huge star (as Mayweather & Pacquiao understood against v De La Hoya)
     
  10. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Yep, didn't Ward also excessively use this whole "A-Side", "B-Side" ****, ironic he's now the victim of it. :lol:
     
  11. Super Hans

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    A rematch with Froch would defiantly have happened if Ward accepted he was not the one of the two that was selling tickets and PPV's (in the UK), plus I'm sure HBO would've been happy to pay him to show that fight and he wouldn't be fighting in front of one man and his dog on BET
     
  12. Peril

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    :deal
     
  13. Super Hans

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    The Mayweather fanboys that want a wife beater on PEDs with a big donger swining from their foreheads and nothing but need to undertand that boxing needs a break from his tired act.

    Sugar Ray Leonard was a lot different from Muhammed Ali.
    Mike Tyson was a lot different Sugar Ray Leonard
    Oscar De La Hoya was a lot different from Mike Tyson
    Floyd Mayweather was a lot different Oscar De La Hoya
     
  14. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This **** is great for the sport if you're a casual GGG I need a KO artist nuthugger. If you are a fan of the sport. Whoever proves they are worthy to be at the top of the sport. Shall sit atop his mantle, and as a fan even if you don't truly like that fighter. You'll watch. This issues with boxing is not with the fighters. It's with fans who don't understand the sport, and call a fight that is not a slugfest or ends in a KO boring, or a fighter who uses the ring (part of scoring in boxing called ring generalship) a runner. When people start educating themselves about our beloved sport and save their savage blood and guts desires for UFC weekends, you'll start hearing a lot less complaining.

    I know I won't get the praise for my comment that you did, but that's because mine was not the nuthugging piece of farce that your's was. Boxing has survived over a hundred yers with fans like myself, and don't worry it'll still continue to be alright.
     
  15. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    It's jealousy plain and simple :yep