Something to consider about Andre Ward

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  1. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I've been still reading these posts about how Ward should still
    be the commander in negotiations against the likes of GGG and
    KOvalev as the A-side by the GGG haters. Take into consideration
    that Wards only 2 significant wins are still a Calzaghe leftover and
    a guy who went nip and tuck with the same leftover. Dead at the
    weight Chad Dawson meant nothing and average Adonis stevenson
    showed us why shortly thereafter. So, Ward beat good fighters that
    had already been tainted or were never elite in talent or ability like
    5-6 years ago, and since then has lost his lineal title and p4p rating
    due to stubborn inactivity. His peak career was overrated a half
    decade ago, and he's done NOTHING since then to even be considered for a big fight. So, could someone please tell me how in the HELL we can advocate for anyone who condones Andre Ward making any kind of demands for purse parity or home field advantage
    in negotiations with anyone like a GGG or a Kovalev or for that
    matter even a James Degale?
    He holds no cards and is an unfriendly TV fighter.
    Tell me why he shouldn't have to earn his shots again?
    :think
     
  2. JasonHensley

    JasonHensley Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ward has been a huge dissapointment for me. After the Super 6 I was expecting to see him continue proving himself. Instead he's had a joke of a career since.
     
  3. BASHar Asad

    BASHar Asad Active Member Full Member

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    Ward is only out for Ward and takes advantage of the boxing public. His days are numbered because when he faces someone his own size who he cannot bully and foul you will see what he is really made of.
     
  4. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol..."his own size." You mean when he faces someone bigger than him that will bully him...to your delight of course. [emoji57] He faced a lot of guys "his own size" already.
     
  5. runner_phob

    runner_phob Active Member Full Member

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    Nope, most of the opponents he faced and specifically his best win, Froch, were smaller than him.
     
  6. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Really, because last time I checked Froch (who by the way is greater than GGG's entire resume) has campaigned at 168 his whole career, while Ward has campained as low as 160. Aren't you the one who just told me in another post this is for adults. Adults research things before they open their mouths.
     
  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes, because Froch is a blown-up welter who had no business venturing north of middle.

    :smoke
     
  8. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    Lets be real here- Ward IS as good as he thinks he is. At boxing as a sport.

    At boxing as a politics he is terrible. He makes poor choices and tries to stack the deck in his favor even against opposition he should be crushing.

    If I was Ward, I'd take the fight against Bute in a heartbeat, and I would go down to 164 to fight GGG, just like GGG wanted to go down to 154 to fight Mayweather.
     
  9. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would he go down to a weight that he can no longer make, to fight an opponent who is no more a draw than he is, and was dropping Ward's name like he wanted to fight? Ward is the tested and proven commodity in this scenario. Neither has enough clout to be making demands. GGG and his team though should stop mentioning Ward though if they have no plans of fighting him where he CAN. Mayweather may have tainted the minds of todays fighters. What they aren't realizing though is he proved he was a draw before he started making demands, ad so called cherry-picking....
     
  10. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    He simply flushed his career down the drain after beating Froch
     
  11. sniffmybadger

    sniffmybadger Boxing Junkie

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    He's the Ring Magazine P4P number 2 in the world!!!!! Lol
     
  12. DoubleEdge

    DoubleEdge The king of Kings banned

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    :deal

    I was going to start a thread saying more or less the same thing.

    It's unbelievable, how much credit he gets for fighting a shot kessler, a green froch and a weight drained Dawson.

    No other boxer gets this amount of credit for past victories that happened over 5 yrs ago.

    If he retired today, his fanboys will demand he be put in the HOF.
     
  13. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Shot, green and drained. Ah the adjectives used by the unknowledgable. I remember when I knew that little.
     
  14. DoubleEdge

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    Those are the prerequisites for any of ward's opponents.
     
  15. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right, because Froch was green. Just forget the fact by the time he faced Ward he had beaten the likes of Pascal, Jermain Taylor, Andre Dirrell, Arthur Abraham. Sounds real green to me. Did he even know how to box then, lol. Dawson weight drained, forgettign the fact that he entered the sport as a middleweight, and moved up to LHW, also being his decision to meet Ward at 168. Kessler was over the hill, he was 30 when they fought. Gimme a break bro. Stop with the excuses.