What does Mayweather's steriod use do to his legacy?

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  1. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol I understand your consternation but the fact is that the NSAC has cleared Mayweather so, unless something new comes up, his legacy will remain intact. It may not be right in your eyes but it is what it is. I am trying to carry on an intelligent conversation but you throwing in questions about my ***ual orientation makes me think that you are a dumbass and that I am wasting my time with you.
     
  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roided Nichols =600 lbs power machine :smoke
     
  3. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If his testosterone was as low as you claim for as long as you claim, he would show side effects of it.. A side effect would be low *** drive and low sperm count which he doesn't have since it's known Ms. Jackson killed his twins.. He wouldn't be able to control his weight either.. He went from 154(Cotto) to 147 (Maidana) back to 154 (Canelo) back to 147 Pac.. Low testosterone would cause you to have more fat and less muscle mass.. I'm not even going to talk about fatigue.. All the PEDs he would have to take to be as great as he was would probably have been found out or taken a toll on his body.. He looked and said he felt great in his last outing.. I'm just talking though.. I could be completely wrong...
     
  4. Manjanek

    Manjanek ESB Double Whopper Full Member

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    What does his ALLEGED steroid use do to his legacy? -Nothing because allegations are nothing when considered from the middle-far future, which is when legacies are truly determined.

    There are 3 roads in athleticism. "All natural/ clean" "supplimental" "Juice" we will call them.
    Anyone serious about fitness will tell you that while the all natural approach does keep substances out of your body and makes the best use of what "god gave you", there is a limit to what the human body can naturally produce. The extremists of this road will say "No there isn't just work harder, or work longer to overcome those obstacles, there is always a way."

    To which the supplimental road walker will say, "Or, I work just as hard as you, but also incorporate science into the workouts." This is not referring to GH or Test or Anabol, I am talking about pre/post workout suppliments from your local nutrition store. Pre/post workout, creating in your body chemistry through food choices a testosterone rich environment. Min/maxing vitamins through diet- what have you. But for these to be a benefit to you, you already have to be an elite athlete. You will have already hit a pinnacle of your ability naturally, or at least are well on your way. These are already performance enhancing drugs and habits. But these are still not "juice".
    Juicing is so harshly altering the body chemestry that it will mandate your muscles to grow, fat to shed, pain threshold and aggression to increase, and all the other things that they do.

    PEDs as we refer to them are the banned performance enhancing drugs that our elite athletes use that cause scandal.
    That being said, there is not a single person who will say that they use NO performance enhancing drugs at the elite level that isn't either a liar or misinformed.

    I am no chemist, but what I do know about T/E ratios is that if it is under a certain level, there is no evidence of testosterone enhancing drugs present.

    I hear things about this carbon isotope ratio test that may be a more definitative test to determine body chemistry, but alas no such testing has been ordered in the case of Floyd Mayweather so I can only assume he is clean unless he changes his narrative or we test in the future frozen blood or something.
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    What was he using?
     
  6. ZablieJudahnoff

    ZablieJudahnoff Charleston White 2024 Full Member

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    Testosterone Suspension
    HgH
     
  7. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly.

    That's my point. His testosterone level was only that low temporarily to mask the fact that he was taking artificial testosterone. It's a common tactic utilized by athletes to do just that.

    On the other hand, if his low testosterone was a natural occurrence, as many Mayweather fanatics would have you believe, it would result in exactly as you described.

    But Mayweather does not NATURALLY have the testosterone of a 275 year old man. He clearly used a substance to cover up his artificially high testosterone in an attempt to beat the test.

    His EXTREMELY LOW T to E ratios are VERIFIED through evidence. So, unless he really does have EXTREMELEY LOW TESTOSTERONE, which would result in what you described, THERE WAS CLEARLY A COVER UP.

    Does that make sense?
     
  8. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    You're still on Mayweather? I thought you don't like him?
     
  9. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    Ok Jesse Ventura!:good
     
  10. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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  11. M.3

    M.3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wow.. That's crazy.. With all this proof he is a cheater and ruined the sport, he should have them people on him.. Arum should sue him or at least put in as much effort to get the ruling changed as he did with Pac vs Bradley.. His life should be hell right now.. So what's happening now? How long ago was all this known?
     
  12. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You said it yourself that if his testosterone level was really that low, he would have severe side effects.

    Are you back tracking by rescinding that statement?

    How do you explain the extraordinarily low testosterone of an athlete of Mayweather's caliber without retracting everything you just said?

    He was cheating. The evidence is verifiable.

    What is your explanation? I'm using simple reasoning. The fact that he also used TUE to clean out his system does not help him here either.

    I cannot explain any external events. I have no idea. All I know is that Mayweather makes a lot of people a hell of a lot of money.
     
  13. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the man is a cheater
     
  14. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super Oneā„¢ banned

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    Renders it irrelevant.
     
  15. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    This clown is totally clueless on this topic lol...!!!