Why is Wlad Klitschko Considered an ATG

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  1. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'm serious, I don't see what is so good about him. He lacks speed and relies on putting his weight on an opponent to wear them down.

    Only 2 of the opponents of his last 5 fights are still in the top 10.

    So whats so great about him? If points were deducted for excessive clinching, this dude wouldn't have a title.
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Establishing yourself as the best in your division for a period of nearly 10 years will always warrant all time greatness, even if the talent during that period was abysmal.
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    His dominance is incredible.

    There was always a bit of debate when Vitali was around but now it is clear Wlad is the man. He's arguably been the number one for a decade nearly.

    Plus his jab and grab is almost unbeatable.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He has controlled the heavyweight division for about 8% of its Post-Queensbury existence.
     
  5. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Dominance
    Ring Record
    Title record
    Longevity
    Skills
    Power
    Conditioning
    Dominace on the score cards
    Never ducked anyone ranked for three years or more that deserved a title shot
     
  6. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What fight would you say really proved that he is a great fighter.
     
  7. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    It's not one fight, it's his career as a whole

    Pick the last one if needed. A complete blowout over the #1 ranked Pulev. The hook to end it was outstanding and produced a time-tested like KO. Such speed and power. At age 39!

    Or take the first Peter fight. Wlad didn't have to take the risky match. Peter was undefeated and scored three knockdowns One which was likely illegal ) illegally and illegally. Anyway, Wlad got off the matt to win without a scoring controversy and close the show in style by hurting Peter in the 12th frame.
     
  8. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Pretty much sums it up.
     
  9. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jennings was his last fight....

    If Pulev was his defining fight then I don't have much faith in Wlad's ATG status.
     
  10. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    It was an eliminator for Byrd's IBF title so...

    And that fight is overrated anyway. It was a great comeback win for Wlad which saved his career from falling apart entirely, but in retrospect we can say that Peter was pretty ****ing bad. He barely cracks Wlad's top 10 wins at best. It was a learning curve, nothing else.
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why is Sonny Liston, Mike Tyson considered ATG's???
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    It comes down to resume.

    You don’t have to beat a great fighter, or even have a great fight, to be an all-time great.

    If you dominate a definable era of the heavyweight division, and are legitimately beating the best fighters in that division, then that unequivocally makes you an all-time great.
     
  13. YesMySon

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    White Holmes lol
     
  14. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    you're an idiot if you can't figure out why he's an ATG bruh
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Oh right. In my opinion Jennings is better than Wilder. The Jennings win might look better years down the road. At any rate, you just don't see many heavyweight champions past age 38 doing this well.

    I don't think Pulev was his defining fight or best win. I'll repost a thread of his best title wins. One thing Wlad never did was make his legacy on washed up older names, like many past ATG heavies did.
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