Is Ward going to LHW because of Degale?

But Kov is a LHW :blood

That's like getting out of a cage with a furious weasel and stepping into one with a psychotic lion

 

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Serge,

In the interview that I read, he basically said he wanted to see how he felt after weighing in at 172 pounds, and that he and Virgil would assess his performance before making a decision on where he went afterwards.

To be honest, I had no issue with him fighting Paul Smith at all at that point.

Maybe he didn't feel rusty in his preparation for Rodriguez. I don't know. But that was two years ago. He's older now, and going into the fight against Smith, he hadn't fought for 19 months. That's a long time for a fighter to be out in his 30's. I don't care how great someone is, it simply has to take it's toll on them, both mentally and physically.

Did you hear that he's reportedly signed a three fight deal with HBO?

He needs to get back in the ring ASAP, he's wasting his prime years. I honestly don't even care who he fights on the Canelo-Cotto card, I just want him back in the ring.

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I knew you wouldn't pick on me twice in the same week.

:rofl

 

Serge,

:rofl

 

It's all very silly. But these guys have huge egos.

 

bailey,

Yes, Dawson had lost before fighting Ward, and yes, his best wins were against aged fighters. But I stand by my point. He was still more proven than Bute and DeGale, and he had a better resume.

I'm a huge fan of DeGale's, but he officially lost to Groves (I had it as a draw) and his biggest win was against Dirrell in a very close fight.

Why is age such a factor for you here? You give Joe huge credit for beating a 43 year old Hopkins. And that's because Hopkins was still a top level fighter at the time. And the same applied to Hopkins and Tarver when Dawson beat them. Despite their age, they were still good wins.

You've mentioned that one of Bute's best wins was against Brian Magee. Yet he turned 36 just after their fight.

You mention the likes of Bika being one of Bute's best wins. Yet Bika hasn't had a noteworthy win in his entire career.

What's Tommy Karpency got to do with anything? We are looking from the perspective of 2012 when Ward fought Dawson. Again, when Ward fought Dawson, he was more proven and had a better resume than what DeGale has now.

Again, I've never specifically mentioned SMW.

Double standards? The only double standards are that you criticised me for butting into your debate with Man Machine, before then doing the exact same thing yourself when I was debating with Beatle.

Of course a Bute-Ward fight would have been huge. It's a real shame that we never saw it. But in my honest opinion, I think we'd have seen it at some point had Carl not destroyed Bute. We've discussed this before. Now if you don't agree with that, that's fair enough. But I'll never believe that Ward was scared of fighting him. I believe that after the final of the Super Six, he was more than happy to have a break and to let his hand heal. He was content to sit back and let Carl step in and fight him. But if Bute had've beaten the runner up of the Super Six, there would have been a huge demand for a Ward-Bute fight. And again, I think we'd have seen it. I think the reason he fought Dawson was because he wanted a big fight after losing out on the Bute fight. After Carl had destroyed him, nobody was interested in a Ward-Bute fight. Again, you're entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, a fighter who was scared of Bute, would never have gone on to fight Dawson. That would have been illogical.

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I have been very frustrated with Ward lately. I really hope he fights Kovalev, but I am not sure I can see it happening.

 

According to reports, he's signed a three fight deal with HBO, that includes a Kovalev fight.

We'll have to see.

 

Who ever started this thread was either high or drunk. Or from the UK.

 

1. DeGale lost to Groves. Don't like the triangle theory since it's wrong far more often than it's right, but many believe Groves WAS the better overall fighter.

2. Even getting dropped a couple times, Andre Dirrel beat DeGale. He got robbed again, but like the Scott v Glaskov fight, we all know who won.

3. Ward would trounce DeGale. That is if he can still make SMW.:think