Why is Wlad Klitschko Considered an ATG

It doesn't matter how he wins, he just wins. He's been winning for such a long time without breaking a sweat because of his tactics. That is why he's great.

Entertaining? No. A complete farce just like Mayweather (an even bigger farce than Mayweather in my book). Great? Yes.

Only a tiny number in history would beat Wlad.

 

That's a very good post. Both Floyd's and Wlad's reigns are two peas in a pod. Lİke them or not, entertaining or not, they're the p4p best fighters of the decade and have their places in the history.

 

Mayweather beat multiple Champions of different divisions. Corrales , Judah , Hatton were legitimate Champs of their division when Floyd beat them.
Wlad used his size to beat an era of useless C levellers.
Floyd has multiple wins against ATG and HOF level fighters who ranked in the p4p to 10 when he fought them.
Wlad never beat a ATG , HOF or p4p level fighter in his career.

Floyd never lost and has exceptional ATG level skills. Wlad got blown away in two rounds by a 90' left over who was never even ranked in the top 10 when in his prime.
Your post is chit:barf

 

You are typical narrow minded brit. Ricky hatton was more of greco-roman grapler than a boxer , but had millions of limey fans follow him around the world, calslappy was nothing more than a featherfisted slapper, but had many fans , david price and many other british glass jawed bums had many fallowers , neither of these boxers were exciting , nor they reached Wlads level of dominance ,but still were worshipped by brits. Brits will worship anybody fighting under their flag , Wlad in UK would be much bigger star than he's in germany .

 

Stfu. Pac is retired ****wad. The thread starter stated his opinion you ****en hump. Talking about race. Did the TS bring up race in post #1? ****.

 

No one is calling hatton an ATG a good fighter who beat the the champ at LWelter and then fought all comers with mixed results. his willingness to fight abroad against the PforP best when truth be told he had little chance of winning made my more optimistic country men big fans of his .Joe calz was the dominate champ at super middle for a decade and retired undefeated he was not knocked out by a series of journey men .David price is a decent heavy weight with a glass chin a bit like Vlad. Perhaps if he fought in Germany against a series of has beens and no hopers he could match vlads dominance. If Vlad as you say could have been bigger in UK or USA why fight out of Germany? Is it because he is protected there ?with a compliant crowd ref and judges.

 

thing is, now you've mentioned this, you've opened a can of worms for yourself...#

joe cal made 21 defences, more than wlad, but no one pretends this makes him an atg.
hatton faced better much opps than wlad, but that doesn't make him an atg.

so how come wlad is a atg in kliturd eyes for making a smaller series of defences and winning a lot but also losing to serial journeymen

 

holmes is.

 

he is now, but at the time he notched 20 defences he wasnt.

not that this is my point at all, but larrys defences eclipse wlads easily, they were tougher by a good margin, and arent pockmarked with bad losses to journeymen.

 

Marciano was amazing. 49-0 (43) overall, 7-0 (6) in HW World title fights, and 6-0 (5) vs. Hall of Famers Louis, Walcott x2, Charles x2, and Moore. He was under 6' and under 190 Lbs. He was only down twice in 49 fights and stopped both of those opponents (Walcott and Moore).

Louis was well past prime and the loss to Marciano was his last fight.

Walcott was close to 40 and fought his last two fights vs. Marciano. Honestly though, I think he was as good as ever vs. Marciano.

Charles was past prime and fought his 98th and 99th fight vs. Marciano. He went just 10-13 after the Marciano fights. Charles was still very good and was well prepared for the Marciano fights though.

Moore was as good as ever vs. Marciano despite what some people may say.

A true P4P great... I can't see him beating either Klitschko though. Maybe 4 times out of 10, but most of the time I see him losing.

 

A "lot tougher" ... yeah, you know, I don't think so. And at an age where Larry retired, sulking, whupped twice by a LHW, Wlad was still dominating.

 

In my book , no ATG fights like a boxing character from the Super Nintendo.

 

First thing that Dino said that made sense ^

 

David Price could have matched wlads dominance? Maybe in your delusional british head , not in reality for sure. Moron, wlad stopped thompson twice, while worse version of thompson stopped david price twice. Wlad was the best heavyweight for a decade and fought all the best heavyweight division could offer, calslappy on the other hand was just a british can crusher who fought bunch of no hopers. Brits are worse than germans . US is a different story that you know nothing about.

 

He lost to 3 journeyman , if you think that was prime wlad , then prime tyson lost to a bunch of bums .