Exactly.. And that's exactly the reason you might wanna just shut up now. Because anyone can go back, and they would see you said exactly what I quoted. There's this little thing called copy and paste, so it's actually capital letter for capital letter exactly what you wrote.
Had you said that, would have cleared the confusion, but you didn't. you said: shame for your "facts" that you have to invent them, holmes is 2nd. He wasn't an ATG when he reached 20 either. this is no longer even funny, writing " facts are facts" doesn't make a lie a fact, but can see why you want to feel that you NEED to write it.
on the day he reached 20, he wasn't. its been clarified and ratified many times for you, several days ago now, and several pages ago on this thread. you keep denying it, don't apologise for being wrong, Wy-lie911. I now need to end your lies by putting you on ignore until you learn to admit you understood the post.
I haven't lied, not one bit. You maybe, possibly should call it a night, get some sleep. And if you care re-read this tomorrow, because you aren't making sense anymore. 1st you say i miss interpreted you, which CLEARLY I didn't. Then you said I lied making up a quote that you said. Which it's easy to go back and see I CLEARLY didn't. Then I'm supossedly denying lying. Yeah right.. Get back to me when you are speaking English again. atsch
and though you are on ignore now wylie, I would just like to add that we were blatantly and clearly debating whether wlad IS an atg on reaching 18 defences, not whether he becomes one later. The thread title is clearly and blatantly "why IS wlad considered at ATG" not "why will wlad be considered an atg" so its obvious that when we were debating whether holmes was an atg at the time of reaching 20, we were discussing his stature AT THAT PRESENT TIME he got 20 and not whether he would later become one. Any conjecture on your part was poor sport. I am sorry that you misinterepreted the thread title and I feel bad that you may have had to rely on feigned ignorance to try and win your argument.
Reigned for an entire decade, beat every challenger that came, barely lost a round in the process. It really isn't a debate anymore. It's just a shame he stayed around too long past prime to get outpoked by a tiny margin by some fat bum in the worst title fight of all time. I'll get straightened out on July 9th though.
Two reigns, 23 title defeneses, most of which put "champions" like Wilder, Martin, and Joshua to shame. Close thread.
I can do even better than that For about the past 11 years you were one of the many that called the heavyweight division "Sad" or better yet "Dead" yet a couple of fighters from certain ethnic backgrounds get a couple of gift belts and now all the sudden it's "Getting good again!!!" LMAO! You call athletes who win Olympic Gold medals and have reigned at the top of the heavyweight division "Inferior talented whites." ??? LMAO! Sure, Keep reaching there Homey What are some of your best athletic accomplishments to compare to these inferior athletes??Anything?? And it's only whites on here with certain agendas huh? Gotcha Lemme guess... GGG, Kovalev, Lomachenko etc the list goes on... Are 'overrated' too huh?! Just like Wladimir is another 'inferior white athlete' right? Hilarious! Lol Speaking of one of those "inferior athletes"... Do you find it the least bit funny how Mayweather won't touch GGG with a 10 foot pole but will most certainly call out an MMA fighter with zero pro boxing fights under his belt for a boxing match?? Lol I mean GGG and McGreggor are about the same size!!! Hmmmmm... Maybe GGG is too 'inferior'?