Is Ward going to LHW because of Degale?

I have been saying this for years. He likes to fight the guys who stand straight upright with no lateral movement. Basically heavy bags with legs. He knows this and so does Virgil. Degale could get himself in place to land one of those Boone uppercuts.

 

Is this even a debatable point? Ward hasn't been fighting anyone. Did he leave it due to Badou Jack? Of course not. He'll most likely never fight at smw again.

 

bailey,

There are NO double standards.

The an*logy you've given with Cotto and GG is completely different.

I'm going to try one more time.


Lucian Bute:

Age - 32

Stance - Southpaw

Height - 6'1

Reach - 72"

Attributes - Speed and skills

Best wins: Bika, Berrio, Andrade, Miranda, Magee and Johnson


Chad Dawson:

Age - 30

Stance - Southpaw

Height - 6'1

Reach - 76"

Attributes - Speed and skills

Best wins - Adamek, Harding, Tarver, Johnson and Hopkins


Now what would have been the logic in running from either one of those guys due to fear, before immediately signing to fight the other??

I'm open to your explanation.

Ducking one big southpaw with speed and skills, to fight another big southpaw with speed and skills?

One that was more proven, and who had a better resume?

It doesn't make sense.


Now as I've discussed, your Cotto-GG an*alogy has lot's of different circumstances involved.

Cotto has the better resume. But he's past prime, and he's coming towards the end of his career. He's also not a legitimate MW, and GG is one of the most feared punchers in boxing. Despite his resume not being as strong, he'd be the overwhelming favourite if they were to fight.

Do you understand?

Ducking GG to instead fight Cotto, would NOT be the same as ducking Bute to fight Dawson.

People often accuse Roy of running from Nunn out of fear. Yet he tried to fight Frankie Liles, and he fought Tarver etc.

Now I can't explain it to you any better than that.

Who cares if Dawson wasn't a SMW at the time?

Who cares if Dawson's best wins were against older fighters?

Tarver and Hopkins were still top level fighters.

If you don't rate Johnson, fine. We'll omit him from both of their resumes.

Who's left?

A near 36 year old Magee.

Berrio.

Andrade.

Miranda.

Sakio Bika, who hasn't had a noteworthy win in his entire career.

And why are you fixated on age? You give Joe a ton of credit for beating a 43 year old Hopkins, and you also give him a lot of credit for beating a near 40 year old washed up version of Roy.

Those are what you call double standards.

I don't agree with the above at all. But this is what happens when you have a guy who has a huge ego. It's complete nonsense. He was more than happy to let Carl step in, but then he was jealous because he was out of the picture and he wasn't getting the publicity.

I can't defend the above, just like how he wouldn't/couldn't admit that Boone had caught him with a great shot, as per Serge's links.

Ward's ego is as big, if not bigger than Roy's and Joe's. You have to expect half truths and contradictions. But I stand by my point. He clearly didn't want to fight Bute when Carl did, but I don't think he feared him, and I think he would have fought him at some point, had Carl not crushed him.

There's talk of him fighting Kovalev next year. And although I'm an advocate of the old adage "styles make fights" I'd find it strange that a guy who ran from Bute at SMW, would fight a guy like Kovalev at LHW.


:good

 

The thesis statement is enough to ban the jerk for life. James Degale, ducking Bute? 214 posts and this clown talked to his alt the entire time lol.

 

LOLz at hill billy Mr. Pibb saying others are alts. Oh the irony. :rofl:rofl

 

I think Ward clearly avoided Bute, and I have a hard time thinking he will fight Kovalev. I will give him huge props though if he actually does. Sorry, but since the Super 6, I have been frustrated with him...

 

Running from Degale to face Kovalev, you cant make this **** up :rofl
Is for you Kovalev still so so fighter that Cleverly was suppose to beat