Best of the 70s vs Best of the 90s

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  1. mr. magoo

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    That doesn't make any sense.
     
  2. Mendoza

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    Wow. Okay, can you post all the calls?
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Point I'm making : Golota found a way to lose.
     
  4. mr. magoo

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    Yes after Bowe got hammered to the point of near death, something that I doubt Leon would stick around long for.
     
  5. Unforgiven

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    I'll use the version in the relevant decade that I think is the best.

    For the 1970s team :
    1971 Frazier beats 1991 Tyson
    1974 Ali beats 1990 Holyfield
    1973 Foreman beats 1999 Lewis
    1978 Holmes beats 1992 Bowe
    1973 Norton beats 1994 Moorer
    1970 Cooper beats 1995 Bruno
    1977 Young beats 1991 Tucker
    1976 Lyle beats 1991 Ruddock
    1979 Shavers beats 1993 Morrison
    1972 Patterson beats 1995 Seldon

    For the 1990s team :
    1995 Botha beats whatever f-ing Wepner
    1994 McCall beats 1970 Chuvalo

    50-50, can't decide :
    1970 Quarry and 1996 Witherspoon
    1978 Spinks and 1996 Golota
    1970 Bonavena and 1995 Mercer
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    I doubt Leon (of February 1978) would present such an easy target as did Bowe.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    Oh yeah, he was a pure sugar Ray Robinson.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    I wouldn't say that, but Leon boxed well against Ali, despite the ridicule he undeservedly gets.
    He slipped punches pretty well with very good head movement and employed a Frazier-esque weaving game plan to outwork a lazy version of Ali.
    Exceptional performance from a novice fighter in a 15 rounder.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    To be fair, the 1990s team Azzer provided, as Mendoza already mentioned, does lack some of the better possible players.

    I think Buster Douglas, Ike Ibeaubuchi, David Tua and perhaps a 1999 Vitali Klitschko would be good contributions.

    On the other hand, Chuck f--ing Wepner handicaps the 1970s team badly.
    Larry Middleton, Joe Bugner, Jimmy Ellis or even someone like Gregorio Peralta would be better pick.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    Tyson vs Frazier (early blowout)
    Holyfield vs Ali (tough fight)
    Lewis vs Foreman (older, wilier LL schools Foreman)
    Bowevs
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    Moorer vs
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    Botha vs Wepner
    Bruno vs Cooper (wipeout)
    Tucker vs Young
    Mcall vs Chuvalo
    Ruddock vs Lyle
    Morrison vs Shavers (don't trust Morrison's jaw in this)
    Witherspoon vs Quarry
    Golota vs Spinks (blowout)
    Seldon vs Patterson (even 70s Patterson has skill & power to win)
    Mercer vs Bonavena

    Bonus: Old Holmes vs Old Liston. (boxing clinic)

    I borrowed Kevin's post and made a couple of changes, but as mentioned some of these fights could go either way.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    I agree with Weppner being lucky to make the team and think the 1990's team could have been much stronger.

    Frazier over Tyson to me goes against the grain. When two seek and destroy punchers at heavyweight meet and trade the most powerfull puncher, the bigger man, and the man with the better chin wins 9 out of 10 times. Tyson also has more weaponry.
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    I think Frazier's comparable in size and in durability to Tyson.
    I think Frazier was the better fighter. More stamina and he threw more punches.
    But Tyson is the harder puncher, punch-for-punch.
    Tyson was not at his absolute best in the 1990s and Frazier was prime in 1970-'71, so I'd certainly pick Frazier.
     
  13. Jester

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    Frazier
    Ali
    Foreman
    Holmes
    Norton
    Botha
    Bruno
    Young
    McCall
    Lyle
    Shavers
    Witherspoon
    Golota
    Patterson
    Mercer
    Old Holmes

    Overall, 70's takes it for me 9-7.
     
  14. Azzer85

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    I know Botha and Seldon weren't exactly the best of the 90s, but they were alphabet champions.
     
  15. Azzer85

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    I kinda tried to pair them off as best I could, I couldn't really find similar fighters to Tua, Ike, Briggs etc from the 70s, id already used Frazier and Shavers and Lyle etc.

    I thought Botha and Wepner kinda made a good pairing?

    I also wanted to create matchups which I felt would be competitive and intriguing as opposed to quick blowouts.