Jerry quarry vs joe alexander

I believe Garcia was ranked 9th at that time Alexander KO'ed him.

 

Jerry was definitely slipping by the Alexander fight. He was a better, more skilled boxer, but his body was giving out on him. Take a look at his physique and you will see that he has a higher body fat percentage, a thicker waist, and is more pear shaped. Look at his fights against Patterson, etc. and you will see he had visible abs in those days. Much better definition. Jerry fought too many tough guys too many times. Can't do that and last.

 

A great blast from the past. I remember watching this bout live. What was the main event that night? I know I watched that bout as well.

 

You're right; at the time I thought that he had fought Joe in Feb-Mar 74; that being said, after getting clocked and almost out by a journeyman, he tries Smokin' Joe again about 40 days later?
I love Jerry but he had had it at that point against any serious contender. I will say he was competitive against Frazier in the first before obviously going south...did you see the left hook Frazier laid on him in the, what? 3rd or 4th round. You talk about what could have caused an early dementia beginning well, that may have been it.
RIP Jerry, great warrior.

 

I believe, if I am not mistaken, he took the second Frazier fight because it was obvious that Foreman was not going to give him a shot. There was on and off again talk of a Bonavena fight, but something, usually a hand injury with Oscar would scuttle it.

 

Foreman would have killed Quarry...

 

Quarry never could beat the highest echelon in the hwt ranks. He lost twice each to Ali and Frazier......Foreman would also do the job.

 

Good post. Quarry looked in poor condition for Alexander.

In the 2nd Frazier fight he came in at 198/197 yet had no muscle definition. His punches seemed to have no snap on them.

In the book "Hard Luck" it stated Jerry came back to his corner after the first round in Frazier 2 and told Gil Clancy "I got nothing", meaning he was physically flat. Clancy replied "Well you can still can tell your left from your right can't you, you dumb son of *****". Quarry was moving in the opposite direction Clancy hd trained him for.

In a very short time Quarry had went from looking so sharp against Mac Foster, Earnie Shavers and Ron Lyle to looking over-the-hill. Which he was. Years of brutal sparring and tough bouts had taken their toll.

Frazier on the other hand looked reborn. To me that was the best Frazier looked since the first Ali fight.

 

WBA had Garcia #8 (or maybe #9) Quarry was #5 , and scheduled to fight Garcia at MSG, THEN THE TUNEUP WITH Alexander, Teddy Brenner then went to Atlantic City to talk with Bonavena for a Quarry Bout, Oscar said he needed more time to train (he probably did need more time- these guys were warriors!) So they Signed Earnie Shavers for Quarry-
1- Then Jerry got the flu
2- Then Shavers ko'd 4th ranked Jimmy Ellis
3-Merritt Broke Shavers Jaw Sparring
4- Then 4th Ranked Quarry kO'D 6th Ranked Shavers

 

I just wished it would have happened Quarry-Foreman 1973, The nite of August 31, 1973 would have been perfect for both, It would have answered all the questions for its time, Foreman would have been at least 3-1, 4-1 odds, But Jerry surprised against the Big Slugger, he made a great living on those guys, Ali and Frazier will always have Jerry's number!

One thing that always kinda intrigued me, Jerry was listed No.2 Contender in the newspapers, leading up to his 2nd Frazier fite, (Where did Joe Frazier go ?) MSG announced Frazier at #2 and Quarry #3- much more accurate!
If anyone can find a top ten listing for the time , And Find Jerry at #2
1974, i'd appreciate it?

 

At the same time Everyone in the heavyweight division wanted a bout with Quarry, Money , prestige, standing, and a win would do wonders , Jerry in these bouts had nothing to gain and everything to lose! Motivation would be a tough factor, just to get in shape, Especially when you were going home to Arlene Charles everyday, You would not want Alexander and they other heavyweights gunning for you around, even as golf partners!

 

I love Jerry but, repeat, Foreman would have killed him!
I've grown so tired of the '73 Quarry would have beaten the '73 Foreman nonsense.
Point one: Foreman could jab; Jerry never saw a jabber he wasn't troubled with outside of class B comp.
Frazier hit harder than Quarry; what top contender did Jerry ever stop? Forget the Shavers anamoly and Mac Foster. He wore opponents down (the top ones) with his attack and his attack would not have stopped Foreman (no one stopped Foreman) Zaire? Another debatable anomaly.
Bottom line? Round one: a smaller Quarry tries to size up a young George, hit starts getting hit with the jab.
What does Jerry do? Go to the ropes and try to set George up for his counter-shots? (he was one of the best) Not gonna happen.
Jerry is simply in a stylish losing situation here.
Frazier clearly better than Quarry.
Quarry attempts to bring the same package?
Jerry can't KO Foreman, he just goes down.

 

I'm not so sure on this one. George himself said that he ducked Jerry it all depending on which Jerry you got that night. I never would have guessed the Jimmy Young stood a chance against Big George. . . .

 

I agree with this. Logically Foreman should kill Jerry but it really hinges on which Quarry shows up. I concede if the hot headed Jerry who could get drawn into slugging matches showed up then he would be in big trouble. But the smart Jerry who was awesome countering off the ropes could cause Foreman a lot of problems. Jerry was tough, durable, could hit hard, and could chew you up if you tried to fight him on the ropes. Foreman was stupid and as Ali showed he could wear himself out banging away against a guy on the ropes. If the smart Jerry showed up he could get Foremans respect early, draw him in, bang hard counters off the ropes while frustrating Foreman and it could become a really interesting fight. Thats a big if though and Jerry was a headcase so the odds are against it. Id favor a younger Jerry more so than the one who was actually in line for Foreman. The timelines just dont matchup well for Jerry.

 

Foreman would have murdered him.

Quarry couldn't go the distance with Ali in two attempts, couldn't go the distance with Frazier in two attempts.
Didn't get beyond the 7th round against either of them.

Foreman probably gets the job done inside 3 rounds. And Quarry's done well to even see the 3rd.

Quarry has his fanboys, and I understand that. He was a real fighter, no question. And he beat his fair share and more of contenders. His limits were shown clearly though.
Foreman would have destroyed him, and there's really no shame in that.