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Oscar's farewell letter to Mayweather from Playboy Magazine.

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jesse Well-Known Member Full Member

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So salty

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MVC!, Nov 12, 2015

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well, of course it is. who could think otherwise?

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alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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Sounds like some of the stuff that's said on this forum, his hate runs deep.

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tinman said: ↑

DLH is bigger and had the best jab of his era.

Prime DLH would control range and take away Floyd's ability to fight on his terms.

Prime for prime easy win for DLH.
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Prime DLH couldn't even beat a lightweight Shane Mosley

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tinman said: ↑

DLH is bigger and had the best jab of his era.

Prime DLH would control range and take away Floyd's ability to fight on his terms.

Prime for prime easy win for DLH.
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no doubt

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Floyd would of course be an easy win for every great fighter who came before him

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bladerunner said: ↑

"By Oscar de la Hoya

Dear Floyd:

You did it. You made it to the 490 mark, a milestone that you like to say only the great Rocky -Marciano reached but that was actually achieved by others, including my idol Julio César Chávezbut whos counting? And now youre retiring. Again. (The first time was after our fight in 2007.) This time you say its for real. Youre serious about hanging up the gloves. On to bigger and better things. So Im writing to you today to wish you a fond farewell. Truth be told, Im not unhappy to see you retire. Neither are a lot of boxing fans. Scratch that. MOST boxing fans. Why? Because the fight game will be a better one without you in it.

Lets face it: You were boring. Just take a look at your most recent performance, your last hurrah in the ring, a 12-round decision against Andre Berto. How to describe it? A bust? A disaster? A snooze fest? An affair so one-sided that on one judges card Berto didnt win a single round? Everyone in boxing knew Berto didnt have a chance. I think more people watched Family Guy reruns that night than tuned in to that pay-per-view bout. But I didnt mind shelling out $75 for the HD broadcast. In fact its been a great investment. When my kids have trouble falling asleep, I dont have to read to them anymore. I just play them your Berto fight. They dont make it past round three.

Another reason boxing is better off without you: You were afraid. Afraid of taking chances. Afraid of risk. A perfect example is your greatest triumph, the long-awaited record-breaking fight between you and Manny Pacquiao. Nearly 4.5 million buys! More than $400 million in revenue! Headlines worldwide! How can that be bad for boxing? Because you lied. You promised action and entertainment and a battle for the ages, and you delivered none of the above. The problem is, thats precisely how you want it. You should have fought Pacquiao five years ago, not five months ago. That, however, would have been too dangerous. Too risky. Youve made a career out of being cautious. You wont get in the ring unless you have an edge. Sure, you fought some big names. But they were past their prime. Hell, even when we fought in 2007and I barely lost a split decisionI was at the tail end of my career. Then later you took on Mexican megastar Saúl Canelo -Álvarez, but he was too young and had to drop too much weight.

Me? I got into this business to take chances. I took on all comers in their prime. The evidence? I lost. Six times. After 31 wins, my first loss was to Félix Trinidad, and I learned a valuable lesson that is true both in the ring and in life: Dont run. I didnt stop taking on the best of the best. After beating Derrell Coley, I took on Sugar Shane Mosley at the height of his powersundefeated and considered by many to be the pound-for-pound best in the world. Again, I lost. After four wins against more top-ranked fighters I took on Mosley again. We can debate who actually won the rematch, but the judges had me losing that one as well.

Did I go easy after that? No. I moved up to middleweight to win a belt and faced one of the greatest middleweights of all time, Bernard Hopkins. After a body shot that Im still feeling took me out of the fight, I took on two more guys at the height of their power who, many years later, would finally face each other at the ages of 36 and 38Manny Pacquiao and you. When fighters do thatwhen they risk losingthats when everyone wins. The mantra of my firm Golden Boy Promotions is simple: the best taking on the best. Its too bad you didnt do the same.

You took the easy way out. When you werent dancing around fading stars (show idea for you: Dancing Around the Fading Stars), you were beating up on outclassed opponents. A lot of your opponents were above-average fighters, but they werent your caliber. Youre a very talented fighter, the best defensive fighter of our generation. But what good is talent if you dont test it? Muhammad Ali did. Sugar Ray Leonard did. You? Not a chance. You spent 2000 to 2010 facing forgettable opening acts like Victoriano Sosa, Phillip Ndou, DeMarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles and Sharmba Mitchell. There were guys out theretough scary opponents like Antonio Margarito and Paul Williamsbut you ran from them. Were you ever on the track team in high school? You would have been a star.

Boxing will also be a better place without the Mouth. Your mouth, to be precise, the one that created Money Mayweather. I know you needed that Money Mayweather persona. Before heand Golden Boy -Promotionscame along, nobody watched your fights. You couldnt even sell out your hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. The Mouth made you money. More money than you could spend in a lifetime. (Wait, Ive seen those episodes of 24/7. You probably will spend it all.) But the Mouth doesnt have a place in boxing; save it for the WWE. Unless youre someone like Ali, whose fights were as scintillating as his banter, the all-talk, no-entertainment model cheapens our sport. Boxers should speak with their fists and with their hearts. They dont have to say anything to prove themselves. Youre going to have a legacy. Youll be remembered as the guy who made the most money. As for your fights? Weve already forgotten them.

Now that youre stepping aside, attention can be turned to the sports real stars: the brawlers, the brave, the boxers who want nothing more than to face the best and therefore be the best. Theres Canelo, Kazakh KO sensation Gennady Golovkin, ferocious flyweight Román González, slugger Sergey Kovalev and a host of up-and-comers including Terence Crawford, Vasyl Lomachenko and Keith Thurman. Want to see what a monster fight looks like? Canelo takes on Miguel Cotto on November 21. It wont do 4.4 million in PPV buys, but everyone who watches it will be thrilled. And thats no empty promise.

Youre moving on to a new phase of life now, a second act. Im sure it will be nice not to have to train year-round. To get out of the gym and spend time with your family. But Im wondering what youre going to do. You have a lot of time and, at the moment, a lot of money. Maybe youll put your true skills to work and open a used-car dealership or run a circus. Or maybe youll wind up back on Dancing With the Stars. Its a job thats safe, pays well and lets you run around on stage. Something youve been doing for most of your career."

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Honestly boxing is bigger than one fighter there will always be new stars, the thing with Mayweather is this because of his persona people will give you a skewed perception of his career.

The truth of the matter is a fighter who has fought 24/5 world champion, won 12 world Titles, in 5 division, beating the #1 rated fighter atleast twice in 4/5 division, tied for most Lineal Titles all time, and the most world champions beaten ever is something more guys should strive to reach regardless of undefeated.

acie2g, Nov 12, 2015

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Code Red said: ↑

Prime DLH couldn't even beat a lightweight Shane Mosley
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And yet he gave Floyd a very competive fight way past prime.

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Oscar should give back all the money he made off of Mayweather's fights if he feels that strongly about it.

compukiller, Nov 12, 2015

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Vanboxingfan said: ↑

And yet he gave Floyd a very competive fight way past prime.
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That missed half his point though too since Floyd is essentially a lightweight.

But yea prime for prime DLH beats May.

tinman, Nov 12, 2015

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Oscar sounded like a butthurt his stable decimated by Haymon with one fighter left Canelo and GB in shambles.

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A lot of truth in that post

Floyd ducked Pacquiao when it mattered, always waited to fight past prime fighters, and the sport will be better off without him

Holy Grail, Nov 12, 2015

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DLH opposition/***** > FMJ

He fought EVERYONE.

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