If Froch came back and battered Golovkin....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Beouche, Nov 14, 2015.


  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: Lewis's resume completely ****s on Calzaghes joke of a resume. Do you also consider that HW's are the most susceptible to being knocked out? You're definitely in the minority in ranking Calzaghe over Lewis.
     
  2. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Bob Fitszimmons = GOAT British fighter.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    That doesn't bother me one bit.:deal
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not that surprised that you'd pick the white guy over the black guy like usual though :lol:.
     
  5. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know how I forgot about Fitzsimmons. Really the only MW to go up and win the HW championship (I don't consider Jones' win over an alphabet titlist like Ruiz as being in the same realm as what Bob did over 100 years ago.)

    Also, Ted Kid Lewis should be right up there as well.
     
  6. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    :lol:

    Hey if it makes you happy I rank Roy Jones Jr and Bernard Hopkins over Lewis as well.:deal
     
  7. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    By consistently fighting the BEST available in their PRIME. Something Lewis was unable to do. Boxing politics, TV issues, cherry picking all played a role. Froch was simply much more aggressive in seeking out more risky prime fighters than Lewis.
     
  8. MAJR

    MAJR Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The two times Froch tried to step up to beat the best he failed - first being defeated by a Kessler coming off a loss to Ward then losing convincingly to Ward himself - he was never the undisputed top fighter of his division, and only held the WBC, IBF and WBA (Regular) belts.

    Calzaghe was recognized as the undisputed best fighter in his division, is the only man to date to have held every relevant title in the Super Middleweights and he moved up to defeat the man considered the best fighter at Light Heavyweight to pick up a title there.

    Lewis was the undisputed best fighter in his division and is the last man at the time of writing to have been Unified Undisputed Heavyweight Champion.

    This being besides the point as Froch will never match the greatness of Bob Fitzsimmons - the only British born fighter and one of only two fighters in history to have been a World Champion at Middleweight and Heavyweight, the first man in history to have held a world title at three different weights, and the only man in history to have been Lineal World Champion at Middleweight, Light Heavyweight and Heavyweight.
     
  9. Grooveongreg

    Grooveongreg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch is not even the best contemporary fighter. I wd rate Hatton higher (if he didn't run into x2 atg he wd have ruled the division).

    He's tough and faced them all but was 2/3rd in his division. He's way down the list.
     
  10. TPB90

    TPB90 Active Member Full Member

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    Anybody who rates Froch above Calzaghe should give up watching the sport.

    I'd rate Nas and Hatton higher than Froch in the list of UK ATG's.
     
  11. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Then it is YOU who should give up watching the sport Scotti
     
  12. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    Lewis has the GOAT resume at HW...
     
  13. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    H2H i got Lennox as the GOAT

    Only guy who seems to give him any competition there is Holmes

    But H2H HW any debate ive seen seems to boil down to these two
     
  14. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch has achieved a lot but is overrated. He fought high level of opposition over 5 years but good matchmaking was on his side. He got an opportunity to fight Abraham for the WBC belt he lost the fight before. He lost the super 6 and was given a immediate title shot against Bute.

    I can't name anyone else who had that happen twice. Also he was beat by Dirrell in an ugly fight.
     
  15. Pugilist_Spec

    Pugilist_Spec Hands Of Stone Full Member

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    I agree!

    Holmes is very underrated H2H. Great resume too. Easily top 5 IMO. His win over Mercer is rarely mentioned and I have no idea why. What a 42 year old Larry did that night deserves nothing but applause.