Will Wladimir end up as the greatest HW of all time?

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  1. Atti90

    Atti90 New Member Full Member

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    Overall, he is the second longest reigning heavyweight champion of all time and has the second most successful title defenses total of any heavyweight boxer with 23 (including his initial reign as a WBO champion), behind Joe Louis (25) and ahead of Larry Holmes (20) and Muhammad Ali (19) and tied on the all-time list for most heavyweight title fights with Louis, as they both have appeared in 27 heavyweight title fights.

    And he has a lot of time ahead of him.
     
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  2. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    He will never reach that record because Tyson Fury will destroy him.
     
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  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Nah, there are only a couple black and white videos available of him. not nearly enough to overtrow boxers from the greyscale eras :bart
     
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  4. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    You're right he'll never get over knocking Fury's head clean off and seeing it roll out of the ring and onto Lampley's lap and he'll retire a depressed completely destroyed mess.
     
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  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He'll easily beat Fury, Wilder and probably Povetkin rematch too but Ali and Louis are on an unreachable point.
     
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  6. Atti90

    Atti90 New Member Full Member

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    Louis?? no way.

    Ali? his iconic status probably will give him an edge for a long time.
     
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  7. DoubleEdge

    DoubleEdge The king of Kings banned

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    Yep he's also missing wife beating, cheating,parkinsons and treason for him to achieve ATG.
     
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  8. _Scott_

    _Scott_ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He probably is the greatest HW of all time but he won't be recognized as the GOAT.
     
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  9. rossle

    rossle Active Member Full Member

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    Depends if people discount his knockout loss to Tyson Fury was because of age.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    I think how Wlad will be viewed by history will largely be up to what the people he beats go on to do. All he can do at the moment is try beat Louis' record.
     
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  11. Atti90

    Atti90 New Member Full Member

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    that's one hell of a milestone
     
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  12. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    no great was pasted out by serial journeymen whilst prime. theres nothing great about his losses.

    I'd class wlad as a hofer, and at best a fringe atg based only on longevity.
     
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  13. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not even top 10. When his best wins are a cruiserweight a 40 year old and a wild unskilled fat fella from Nigeria. He length of time as a belt holder will be mentioned but in the same breath how weak the quality of opposition was.
     
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  14. Atti90

    Atti90 New Member Full Member

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    as a heavyweight, Wlads prime was in his mid 30s. not late 20s.
     
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  15. BCS8

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    :lol:

    I was missing the old Herolgee. You got so reasonable for a bit, that I wondered who had hacked your account. (Or was it a toke of mellow green splif?)

    The only fighter to spank Wlad from the get-go was Sanders. Wlad self-destructed against Brewster and Purrity by gassing. Losing against Sanders isn't a knock, given how studiously he was avoided by the other big names that were around at the time that he fought. At least Wlad fought him.

    And he's not the only HW great with dodgy losses/performances.

    Lewis has Rahman and McCall on his loss roster.
    Holmes lost to a LHW.
    Dempsey got stopped by Flynn.
    Bowe got trampled by Golota.

    Etc ...
     
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