Sergiy Derevyanchenko: A Cold Wind Blows From The Crimea-The Feodosiyan Annihilator.

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  1. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also no germans ever oversaw the largest famine in modern European history in Ireland, ir killed 100s of 1000s of Irish people in military incursions over 100s of years or forbade Irish people to own their own land, or speak their own language.

    One coloniser is as bad as any other
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Capitalism is wonderful isn't it Limerickbox, and all of the people who died becaouse of and at the hands Euro/US funded death squads, wars and proxy wars for the last 100 years in Latin America, Africa, Asia and Europe should be swept under the rug as well right? Regardless of all the propaganda Hitler and Mussolini were corporatist and capitalist right winger who all the capitalist do a real good job of rewriting history on trying to fool the world into somehow thinking they were on the left.

    Stalin was no more guilty of trying to spread his ideology than the UK and US was.
     
  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The British are primarily Angles and Saxons so technically they are Germans.
     
  4. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unlike you, I'm not trying to defend Hitler and Mussolini, or British colonisers.
    Fascist...communist. 2 sides of the same authoritarian, tyrannical coin

    As for Hitler being a "capitalist", he was quoted as saying he wanted to "destroy the capitalist system"
    They were the nationalist socialists after all

    "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions." -Adolf Hitler
     
  5. Cafe

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    Stalin was worse than Hitler by far, at least Hitler did what he did believing it is for the good of his own people and he DID in fact do some good things for them.. Stalin on the other hand sacrificed and mass murdered millions of Russians, if there ever was a heartless man, Stalin was it.
     
  6. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Meh, its kinda pointless getting into a "who was a better mass murdering sociopath" argument.

    They were both scum...of the lowest order.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I don't care what Hitler said, he wasn't the most honest person was he? You can make up excuse you want but it doesn't change the fact the National Socialism is for all intents and purposes is state run capitalism. The basic tenets are the same, National Socialism and Corporatist Capitalism are 2 sides of the same coin as well.
     
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    It's necessary because people for some reason forget what a piece of **** this guy was just because he sacrificed millions of lives to beat the Nazis (as if we should be thankful to HIM for that).
     
  9. Limerickbox

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    "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions." -Adolf Hitler

    Thats a pretty specific sounding lie

    State run capitalism to me is as bad as state run socialism.

    Its the "state run" part that separates from my ideology.

    Socialism and fascism are both big government, authoritarian ideologies.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So its better to be a stark raving maniacal zealot? Stalin was a monster no doubt, I'm pretty sure the Soviet Union would have been far better off had Trotsky somehow came out on tiop in their power struggle, but from everything I've read about Stalin I think he truly believed in the cause and thought he was doing the right thing as well. Even though he was completely off his rocker as well.
     
  11. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All crazy mass murderers think they're doing the right thing.

    Fascism and communism are 2 ideologies that belong in the last century(not that they ever should have belonged there either)
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Then why were some of the first victims of Hitler Socialist and Communist that he had rounded up.:think Strange behavior for such a devout Socialist isn't it.
     
  13. Limerickbox

    Limerickbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well he didnt kill half as many communists as Stalin...

    He killed anyone who could challenge him...just like Stalin did.
     
  14. CST80

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    Capitalist was code words for bankers you know the Jews. He had nothing whatsoever against Capitalism, he believed in it fully for the German people and German industrialists.
     
  15. Limerickbox

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    What he believed in was having a massively powerful, centralised police state.

    Not exactly a follower of Ayn Rand...