Liston vs 1974 Ali.

Oh my God. This again. I hate when people say Liston had no heart and especially chin. He was literally only dropped once in entire career. Worse chin than Foreman my ass. Liston was getting his ass handed to him by a prime Cleveland Williams but did he quit? No he didn't. He came back and won. Also, he fought 6 rounds with a broken jaw. 6 ****ing rounds You have to have heart to do that.

 

Because his shoulder was ****ing paralyzed.

 

Sports Illustrated writer Tex Maule wrote that Liston's shoulder injury was legitimate. He cited Liston's inability to lift his arm: "There is no doubt that Liston's arm was damaged. In the sixth round, he carried it at belt level so that it was of no help in warding off the right crosses with which Clay probed at the cut under his left eye." He also cited medical evidence: "A team of eight doctors inspected Liston's arm at St. Francis Hospital in Miami Beach and agreed that it was too badly damaged for Liston to continue fighting. The torn tendon had bled down into the mass of the biceps, swelling and numbing the arm."[29]

Those findings were confirmed in a formal investigation immediately after the fight by Florida State Attorney Richard Gerstein, who also noted that there was little doubt that Liston went into the fight with a sore or lame shoulder.

 

That is COMPLETELY irrelevant to what I was talking about. How typical of you! Instead of refuting my arguments, You completely change the subject. http://www.cbssports.com/general/ey...bi-suspected-ali-liston-bout-in-64-was-rigged

Mark Kram of Sports Illustrated said Liston told him: "That guy [Ali] was crazy. I didn't want anything to do with him. And the Muslims were coming up. Who needed that? So I went down. I wasn't hit."

During a 1995 HBO documentary about Liston, Johnny Tocco, who owned a boxing gym in Las Vegas, said he spoke with mobster John Vitale before the rematch and was told not to pay any attention to what he heard about the fight. He also told Tocco that he should be glad that he wasn't going to Lewiston. When Tocco asked why, Vitale told him that the fight was going to end in the first round.

During the same documentary, former FBI agent William F. Roemer Jr. said, "We learned that there very definitely had been a fix in that fight." He said Bernie Glickman, a boxing manager from Chicago with mob ties, claimed that while he was conversing with Liston and his wife before the fight, Liston's wife told the ex-champion that as long as he had to lose the fight, he should go down early to avoid any chance of getting hurt.

In the wake of the controversial fight, there was an outcry by press and politicians for the abolition of boxing. Bills to ban the sport were planned in several state legislatures.

For those who believe that Liston took a dive, there are a number of theories as to why, including:
(1) The Mafia forced Liston to throw the fight as part of a betting coup.
(2) Liston bet against himself and took a dive because he owed money to the Mafia.
(3) A couple of members of the Nation of Islam visited Liston's training camp and told Liston they would kill him if he won the rematch.
(4) Author Paul Gallender claims that members of the Nation of Islam kidnapped Liston's wife, Geraldine, and Liston's son, Bobby. Liston was told to lose the fight to Ali or he would never see his family again.
(5) Liston was afraid that he would be accidentally shot by followers of Malcolm X as they tried to kill Ali in the ring.

 

It wasn't relevant. Not at all because I was referring to the first Ali-Liston fight.