Oscar's performance vs floyd most overrated of all time.

Better than most expected? Sure. But if not for his screaming fans who went nuts everytime Oscar took a breath, no way he gets a judge to score for him.

He lands a few flurries and then does nothing exactly like lederman says. I don't always agree with Harold but even he seemed concerned with how much Manny Steward and Merchant were licking Oscars nuts. Merchant spends the whole time hating on Floyd like he is his ex boyfriend.

scorecard:
Floyd Oscar
1. 10 9
2. 9 10
3. 10 9
4. 9 10
5. 10 9
6. 9 10
7. 10 9
8. 10 10
9. 10 9
10. 10 9
11. 10 9
12. 10 9

8 rounds to 3, 1 round even.

winner Floyd mayweather jr.

 

Like in many of his fights, fans give Oscar lots of credit for hitting air and gloves.

 

I had it 7-5, the closest fight in Floyd's career, other than the first Castillo fight. I think Oscar's performance in the fight has grown somewhat underrated over time. I think that Floyd was uncomfortable with Oscar's physical strengths (esp. Hand speed and power) and therefore fought a very tentative, defensive fight.

 

Floyd won the contest legitimately. But even as a Mayweather fan myself, he never fully took control of that match. Oscar despite his age and limited activity in recent years kept himself alive in the fight and made it a close affair. Some people assume that because a past prime Oscar fought Floyd on close terms that it would be an automatic win for Golden boy years earlier... That may be true but I have my doubts. For one thing it would likely be in a lower weight class, and the lower the two of them drop down the more I'd favor Floyd. In addition, Oscar fought differently in his youth. He fought smarter against Floyd in 2007 than I believe he would in say 1997. His tenacity in those youthful years could very conceivably play into the hands of Mayweather's defensive style.

 

I think you can argue he took control in the later rounds. I admit k originally thought it was a draw but after watching it more closely and relying on my own eyes rather than crowd or commentary I can't see how anyone can argue this as an Oscar win.

 

Floyd got a lot of credit in that one for jabbing at gloves too, as he often did. I guess that's something him and Oscar had in common.
It seemed to take him several rounds to get that jab on target at all.

 

Well, from what you say in the first post quoted here, it seems that you're still a little pre-occupied with the opinions of the commentators.

:good

 

Yeah, I think I raised that argument in another thread a few months back. Oscar's decline gets overstated because he looked less impressive against middleweights than he did against lightweights and welterweights, but he was bigger, stronger, and a probably smarter at that point in his career. Not a foregone conclusion for me that prime Oscar does much better (and its unclear whether Floyd would have fought a similar style fight against him too)

 

I had it 8-4 Mayweather. Mayweather won the last 4 rounds when the notably past prime De La Hoya had gassed out (him being past prime made his existing stamina issues worse).

De La Hoya from year 2000...that's a different story. At least a draw.

 

Being able to notice things and being preoccupied with them are not the same thing. atsch

 

They were both unspectacular.

Neither ever more than solid fighters at this weight.

 

I have to say that looking at the aggressive manner in which he fought an aged Whitaker and how Pernell handled that fight, it leaves doubts in my mind about a prime matchup between he and Floyd. This was Oscar at his best and Frankly I think I gave that bout to Whitaker by a narrow margin.

 

Floyd outlanded Oscar about 2 to 1 in that fight, not close even if it was boring for most.

 

Oscar showed early doors he could match Floyd technically. The question is did Floyd adapt or did Oscar gas.

It was a good performance, he looked elite in the aftermath of the MW debacle.

Against Forbes and Pac he looked a shell. You'd probably pinpoint round 6 as the last 3 world class minutes of his career.

 

Close fights should never be called robberies. My opinion-

A case can be made for an Oscar win over Floyd. A case can be made for a Maidana win over Floyd. I thought Castillo beat Floyd 8 rounds to 4 (robbery). A case can be made that Pacquiao and Floyd fought to a draw.

His win over Judah was clear but close. Cotto and Alvarez did OK but clearly lost. Ortiz landed a few good punches and pressured Floyd quite well before blowing his chances in the fight. Mosley rocked him but did little else.

Floyd was a great boxer, not TBE, not easy to watch, not very well liked, but still a great boxer.

He do feel he avoided certain fighters, they are-

Margarito, Cotto (at first), Pacquiao (at first), and Martinez. Some will say others like Paul Williams, Lara, Thurman, Garcia, Khan, Bradley, Brook, Porter, and others but I'm not going to do that... would have been nice to see him fight some of these guy though.