Willie Monroe Jr "Canelo beats GGG!"

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo is absouletly not better skilled than GGG.
     
  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now I'm %100 certain that you're trolling. Go watch Abraham-Murray and then think about what you said.
     
  3. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol!
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both are very skilled. It’s debatable whose skills are better because they haven’t fought yet. The difference is that Canelo has been forced to adapt in many of his fights as he’s faced more skilled boxers thus far in his career.

    GGG hasn’t really been tested in the way Canelo’s been tested by high level boxers, so GGG hasn’t had to make the adjustments during a fight that Canelo has had to.

    GGG might be able to adapt during a fight, and can box, but we haven’t really seen that yet like we have with Canelo. Also GGG hasn’t been going 12 rounds, he’s been stopping opponents, mainly brawlers one after the other.

    So if Canelo were to get through the early rounds, it’s possible Canelo will gain confidence as the fight goes on and take GGG into deep waters that GGG isn’t used to going. Also Canelo has a great chin and great defense on top of that, so GGG is going to have a tougher time hurting Canelo than his other opponents. And the more he tries to hurt Canelo, the more that plays into Canelo’s game plan giving him counter attacking opportunities.
     
  5. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I disagree. GGG showed he can stalk his opponents and walk them down, he showed he can fight off the back foot, he showed great counter-punching skills too, he showed he can hurt his opponents with his jab alone which is far superior to Canelo's, he has great ring generalship and ring IQ, very good punch variation since he knocked people out with both body and head shots and finally he showed he can slip or block a punch as well. Canelo fought better competition in Floyd and Lara but I saw nothing in those fights to suggest that he can adapt and adjust with the variability he faced in those fight. He's been hurt before @154 so he's definetly not gonna withstand GGG power despite all the talk about his defence, he has solid defence for sure but It's nowhere near the highest level like Floyd or B-Hop so he will get punched, It's unavoidable given GGG's great punch accuracy. Especially I don't see him reacting well to the bodyshots and that'll affect very badly his already poor stamina.

    I honestly cannot see any possible scenario whatsoever that Canelo can beat Golovkin.
     
  6. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I think Canelo puts up a good fight but loses via KO.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anyone would have their hands full with Quillin, Lee & Lemieux.

    Lemieux had his moments vs GGG and I thought Lemieux fought a completely wrong game plan vs GGG. I think Lemieux is actually a way better fighter than he showed vs GGG and could give any one in that division problems.

    Lee vs Canelo would be a very close fight and wouldn’t be easy for Canelo. Styles make fights, what could be easier for one guy could be harder for another.

    None of the guys you listed will be a walkover, GGG might have an easier time vs those guys than Canelo but it that doesn’t mean Canelo can’t beat GGG. It’s possible that Canelo could struggle with those guys but could find a way to beat GGG. You just never know, that’s why we love boxing.
     
  8. The Smoking Man

    The Smoking Man Boxing Addict banned

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    I'm irish and Andy Lee would be a very easy fight for ggg. He would beat him senseless . He also hammered him in the am's
     
  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    At running it seems
     
  10. JHDallas

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    I have thought for quite a while that Canelo is the best fight out there for Golovkin.

    I like both fighters and what they do in the ring.

    In the same way that I felt Canelo was bigger and more powerful than Cotto, I feel Golovkin is bigger and more powerful than Canelo.

    Their individual skills will make for a great fight in any case.
     
  11. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i can see canelo winning a few rounds because of his reach and speed but eventually ggg will wear him down
     
  12. drenlou

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    Go watch Tyson-Douglas and Pacquaio-Marquez IV and think about what you said.
     
  13. drenlou

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    Andre beat GGG in the Ams... Dont get too excited!
     
  14. The Smoking Man

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    Ggg beat dirrell too.

    And if I remember dirrell beat ggg in America on a razor close decision that has been classed as home cooking.
     
  15. theanatolian

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    Irrelevant. Abraham-Murray and Cotto-Canelo are the fights that show Canelo CANNOT hurt GGG by any ways whatsoever.