Klitschko is at evens to KO/TKO Fury

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  1. iceferg

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    I personally don't think this will go 12 rounds and I favour Wladimir so evens on him to win by KO is a good price.
     
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  3. Solarse

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    Haye v Wlad was a stink fest, such a boring fight.....

    I can safely say saturday won't be
     
  4. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    Evens for Klitschko to win by KO/TKO/DQ is an outstanding bet!!

    Usually, I would recommend a small "saver" on a Klitschko points win/TD which is 7/4..but I honestly think it is unnecessary in this case.

    Yes, Wlad, is old and past his prime. But Fury has beat no-one of any genuine significance! Forget the hype for a minute and consider that fact.

    Tyson avoided the likes of Povetkin (who Wlad handled with ease) as they would have derailed the "Fury Express"!

    Tyson has good stamina, but he is not a big puncher by any stretch (which you have to be to beat Wlad)..add to that Fury's own questionable punch resistance, shoddy defence and the unavoidable fact that Wald is simply a far better boxer (who hits much harder and has much more experience) and you have the recipe for a Wlad stoppage win.

    I have been waiting months for this!! Not because I hate Fury (I don't) but as a betting opportunity it is as good as it gets!!

    LUMP ON!!!:bbb:bbb
     
  5. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    :good

    I think there will be more action in the first two of rounds of Wlad V Fury than there was in Wlad V Haye.
     
  6. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    I cannot envisage a scenario where Fury outboxes Wlad over 12 for a points win (especially in Germany). Wlad is simply a far superior boxer than Tyson.

    People judging Fury's ability can only do so via his fights and not one of his opponents was a genuine top ten contender when Tyson beat them.

    I think that Fury has been poorly prepared for this fight (given who he has fought thus far) but since the goal was clearly securing the title shot, then it has been a success.

    I think the gulf in class will become obvious within a couple of rounds.

    The ONLY scenario I can imagine whereby Fury wins is if he is somehow leading on the scorecards after 4 rounds or so and an accidental cut forces them to go to the cards. An abbreviated decision victory seems (imo) to be his only hope.
     
  7. Solarse

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    I've been watching boxing too long to say Tyson has no hope what so ever, its slim but there is always a chance. But I do agree he is a massive underdog with all the media/pundits & ex pro's writing him off.

    At the end of the day the plan was to always get him a title fight and a hefty pay cheque. So in these terms its been a success.

    I personally think Wlad's skills are overated, he is basically a jab and hold merchant. With Fury's movement and stamia he could cause Wlad problems if the fight goes beyond round 6, but granted thats a big if.

    Don't really care if he doesn't win as long as he makes a good account of himself. His reputation could actually go up after this fight even if he loses if his performance is good.

    The Gypsy Boy has done good to even get here, and I for one think he is good for boxing pure comedy gold.
     
  8. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    He has done great to get the fight. And I agree, in securing the fight "Team Fury's" strategy has been very successful.

    I met Tyson at Newcastle Civic Centre when he was an amateur. He was great craic and he told told me then that he was going all the way, so it is great to see him achieve what he said he was going to do all those years ago.

    Even if Tyson doesn't win, Wlad will almost certainly retire within the next 12-18 months, so the door will be open for Tyson to secure at least a portion of the world title.

    But we are talking about Saturday. And whilst I take your point regarding Wald's "Tactics", Wald is (imo) simply a much better boxer who has a huge edge in experience... and hits harder than Fury (who can be easy to hit).
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Yeah, but there are hundreds of examples where fighters get dropped by a light-hitter but go on to survive a fight against a hard hitter.
    Khan was dropped bad by Limond. Khan was iced by Prescott. Khan has a proven weak chin. But he survived 12 rounds with Maidana, who hits pretty good.

    Cunnigham was 210 pounds and Fury was caught square on with a full-bodied shot. It doesn't prove he's going to get KO'd by Wlad. It's true that Cunningham wasn't a "puncher" even at cruiser, but 210 pounds of solid body hitting a square on target is what it is.

    Anyway, Wlad can knock out anyone, that's not in dispute.
    I wouldn't be surprised if he ran through Fury in 2 or 3 rounds, but it's not a foregone conclusion.
     
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    Haye fought a younger, faster version of Wlad though.
    Fury is capable of fighting smarter than what Pulev did.
     
  11. dublynflya

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    Whilst the Cunningham knock down is not the only example of Tyson getting dropped/shaken, what I would say about it is USS probably hit Fury with the greatest punch he ever threw...by quite a margin (he had absolutely everything behind that shot)..and Fury, to his credit, did recover pretty quickly (when it landed I thought Tyson was sure to be ko'd).
     
  12. Solarse

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    Its hard to disagree with this, but I personally don't think we have seen the best of Tyson. whether his best is good enough to beat Wlad is another question !! Just hope I see a focused Tyson on Saturday sticking to peters game plan and prepared to take risks when the time is right
     
  13. dublynflya

    dublynflya Stand your ground Son!! Full Member

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    Good points!

    I agree, we almost certainly have not seen the best of Tyson (it had better be the case, because his best thus far isn't good enough) and it may be that a more circumspect (than usual) Fury surprises us all by "boxing clever" as the old saying goes.

    One thing we can definitely agree on, it has all the makings of a fantastic fight.
     
  14. impacted

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    Spot on. Can't convince the 'Boxing by numbers' crowd of anything though. Fury is a hugely live underdog.
     
  15. LondonRingRules

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    Haye fought in a MUCH more aggressive style in those fights and is extremely elusive when he wants to be, something I don't think uncoordinated and clumsy tyson will ever be. Wlad will have no problem landing on fury.