Wlad v Fury - your breakdown

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  1. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It seems everyone on here has picked their side for tonights fight and the manner in which it will happen (KO/decision), but i haven't seen hardly any tactical ****ysis. I've seen a lot of Wlad/Fury will break that china chin, but no breakdown of how.

    So for people who prefer debating tactics rather than petty point scoring with their online rivals and people who realise that there is more to picking a winner of a fight than who hits harder, who has the better chin and who is the more experienced, who are you going for, in what manner will they win and how will they achieve this?
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad is old a ****.. if Fury beats him how much credit does he really deserve? If you dont think prime Wlad would have killed Jennings ydksab, age matters, even Tyson said so himself. Now I'm picking Wlad to win, but if he doesn't it does nothing to tarnish his career at age 39 he's still dominating the youngns, if Fury wins, good for him, he's the #1 HW but really the win will be blown way out of proportion.
     
  3. gdm

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    I will not give Fury much credit as I don't give it to kovalev for beating old past prime bhop, same here wlad is old and past it ,that's why I think furys chances are good. If that was wlad from 2011, I'd give fury no chance.
     
  4. ellerbe

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    Exactly, I barely give Kov let alone Dawson credit for Bhop. Though i do think Wlad is in better condition than Bhop was against Kovalev. I dont see Wlad getting hit that much by a Murat or Shumenov type opposition.
    I give Fury a 10% chance of pulling it off. Wlad was just injured recently too so who knows what happens.
     
  5. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with staying out of mid range. Wlad only really lets his right hand ir left hook go when he is confident nothing will come back. Opponents who just stand stationary in front of him get destroyed. Like you eluded to, Fury cant just stand in front of Wlad in punching range.
     
  6. Jacko

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    Fury should get some credit for beating this version of Wlad. He may not be the Wlad of old, but he is still very effective as he has proven lately.
     
  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes definitely some credit, he's still the clear cut #1, but we all know 10-20 years from now if Fury does win it would be blown WAY out of proportion, Fury probably would duck Joshua, Wilder etc and fight the Glaskovs of the world and retire living off the Klitschko win.
     
  8. gdm

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    Well wlad is a lot younger than bhop, so prob he's still in better physical condition than bhop , but bhop is much more skilled , less predictable and prob one of the smartest boxers ever , that's why a lot people forgot about his age.
     
  9. Jacko

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    Well I'm not going down the Fury will duck so-and-so or even fight so-and-so path. I'll wait to see what happens. However, it will be overblown a bit in the way that Hatton-Tszyu is.
     
  10. ellerbe

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    Hatton-Zoo isnt really overrated in 2015 though, I rarely see people give him too much credit for that win. Trust me Wlad/Tyson would be on a different level of overrated win if Tyson wins, since Wlad is on a 10 year streak people will completely disregard his age, his struggle against Jennings, and act like he beat a prime Wlad. Some morons will even make an argument for Wlad being far better than he was 10 years ago. Yes Wlad is smarter forsure than before but I'd take his youth over those brains against a heavyweight who doesnt hit hard like Fury.
     
  11. gdm

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    This 100%.
     
  12. Jacko

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    Wlad isn't what he was, but he is still a formidable opponent.

    Thr Jennings fight, for me, said more about Jennings style than it did about Wlad's decline. I'm not a big fan of Jennings, but unlike a lot of Wlad's opponents he didn't just stand there statically in front of Wlad, letting him pump out his jab and straight right in Jennings face. Wlad only really lets his right hand go when he is confortable, when his opponent is stationary, at the end of his jab. If he feels he is at a safe distance and nothing will come back at him, then he will let the big shots go. Give Wlad some movement, be it foot or just upper body movement and his work rate decreases to a stand still and it gives of the impression that he can no longer pull the trigger.
     
  13. ellerbe

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    Good breakdown :good
     
  14. theanatolian

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    I think Fury is gonna try to use his reach advantage and try to box from the outside. Once he starts to get frustrated with Wlad's superior footwork and technique, he'll try to close the gap, get past Wlad's jab and look for a chance to use his size and inside game advantage. I don't see him doing that without getting nailed with a big shot. And I think we can all agree he doesn't have the durability to walk Wlad down. Mid-round TKO for Wlad.
     
  15. Robney

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    Fury can do well with his massive reach and switching stances so Wlad has to adjust early on, but doesn't have the power to keep Wlad of him, nor the chin/defence to take his harder punches.

    My idea for the fight.
    Wlad takes the middle of the ring trying to deploy his jab, while Fury tries to do the same thing from the outside... both have some succes because a) Wlad has a better jab, b) Fury has an extreme reach.
    Then I expect very early in the match that Wlad lands his first straight right and wobbles or even drops Fury with it.
    After that it becomes very tentative and a bit messy until Wlad lands the next big one, wich either abrubtly ends the whole thing, or starts bounching Fury off the canvas until it is stopped.